Paris F2F August 2015
Host: Mozilla
Dinner 7pm, Le Zinc des Cavistes
Dates: Tuesday-Thursday, August 25-27, 2015
Nearby events:
Meeting Minutes
Tuesday, 25 August
Part I:
CSS Cascade,
CSS Fragmentation,
CSS Animations,
CSS Text, TPAC Japanese Industry Meet-up, Number of F2F Meetings Per Year
Part II: Flexbox, Grid/Flex Percentages, Testing
Part III:
CSS UI 4,
CSS Text 4, User Stylesheets
Part IV: Snapshot 2015 and Prefix Policy, @apply rule
Wednesday, 26 August
Part I: Round Display, Grid Layout
Part II: Animations, Scroll Snapping
Part III: Defining Pagination,
CSS Priorities from DigiPub
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Thursday, 27 August
Part I: FXTF Meeting Part 1- SVG Resources, SVG Images Without Intrinsic Size, Matrix Interpolation Revisited, SLERPing and 0deg angles
Part II: FXTF Meeting Part 2- glyph-orientation, writing-mode Values from SVG 1.1, getTransformToElement, Path Animation, Zoom Features for Media Queries
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Part IV: will-change, Scroll Snap, Input Modality
Part V: Page Floats, Writing Modes, Snapshot 2015, Flexbox % Follow-Up
Location
Transport Notes
Some notes about transport in Paris around this week. There are some lines shut down for maintenance. In particular, I've seen signage that:
RER line A (the middle east-west RER line through the center) is closed between La Defense and Auber exclusive (i.e., the western half of its run through the center of Paris) from July 25 through August 23, inclusive
RER line C (the southern east-west RER line through the center) is closed between Avenue Henri Martin/Javel and Gare d'Austerlitz (exclusive), July 15 through August 22
Metro line 4 (a north-south metro line through Paris)
is closed north of Reaumur-Sebastopol (exclusive) from 27-30 August (inclusive). This includes its stops at Gare du Nord and Gare de l'Est, although other metro lines (including the 5) will still stop there
although I haven't found a central listing of all of the maintenance closures, although https://vianavigo.com/fr/actualites-trafic/ is close.
http://www.ratp.fr/informer/trafic/travaux_ratp.php lists all maintenance works on RER, Metro, and Tram lines.
Participants
Name | Arrival | Departure | Hotel | Flight info and notes |
Alan Stearns | 21 Aug | 30 Aug | Apt | ?? |
Andrey Rybka | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? |
Bert | 24 Aug | 29 Aug | Vivienne | train (Gare de Lyon) A: 21:41 / D: 18:19 |
Brian Birtles | ?? | ?? | ?? | observer from Mozilla (and SVG WG) |
Cameron McCormack | ?? | ?? | ?? | observer from Mozilla (and SVG WG) |
Chris Lilley | 22 Aug | 30 Aug | Hôtel Eugène en Ville | AF6207/ AF6248 |
Dael Jackson | 23 Aug | 30 Aug | apt share | AA754 / AA755 |
Dave Cramer | 24 Aug | 30 Aug | Hotel Peletier-Haussmann | UA 987 / UA 986 |
Dean Jackson | ?? | ?? | ?? | ??, attending last day of CSS WG and both Houdini days |
Dirk Schulze | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? |
Edward O'Connor | 22 Aug | 29 Aug | Hôtel Edouard 7 | UA0990 / UA0991, attending CSS WG but not Houdini |
Elliott Sprehn | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? |
fantasai | 23 Aug | 28 Aug | apt share | BA / Icelandair |
Florian Rivoal | 22 Aug | 30 Aug | apt share | ?? |
Greg Whitworth | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? |
Hiroshi Sakakibara | 23 Aug | ?? | Hotel Peletier-Haussmann | ?? |
Hyojin Song | 24 Aug | 29 Aug | Hyatt Regency Paris Etoile | OZ 501 / OZ 502 |
Ian Kilpatrick | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? |
Jet Villegas | 2015-08-22 | 2015-08-29 | apartment | UA0990 / UA0991 |
Jihye Hong | 24 Aug | 29 Aug | Hyatt Regency Paris Etoile | OZ 501 / OZ 502 |
Johannes Wilm | 22 Aug | 29 Aug | apt share | ?? |
L. David Baron | 15 Aug | 30 Aug | Apartment | AF351 / AF80 |
Lea Verou | 21/8 | 30/8 | Hôtel Eugène en Ville | AF1441 |
Liam Quin | 25 Aug | 30 Aug | best Western Opera Roncay | AC 880 / CDG |
Matt Rakow | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? |
Ojan Vafai | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? |
Peter Linss | 23 Aug | 31 Aug | Best Western | UA 990 / UA 914 |
Rachel Andrew | 24 Aug | 30 Aug | Apartment | [observer] BA 314 / Train |
Rossen Atanassov | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? |
Sam Weinig | ?? | ?? | ?? | ??, attending/observing first day |
Shane Stephens | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? |
Simon Fraser | ?? | ?? | ?? | ??, attending last day of CSS WG and both Houdini days |
Simon Pieters | August 24 | August 30 | Vivienne | AF1263 / AF1262 (CDG) |
Simon Sapin | | | home | |
Steve Zilles | August 24 | August 31 | apartment | Thai Air 930 |
Tab Atkins | ?? | ?? | apt share | US786 arriving CDG Aug 23 8:25, AA755 departing CDG Aug 30 13:20 |
Tantek Çelik | 2015-08-22 | 2015-08-29 | apartment | UA0990 / UA0991 |
(alphabetical by first name, plzkthx)
Regrets
Anton Prowse, John Daggett
Agenda
Tuesday
AM
FlexBox
Percentage heights in grid and flex containers
Absolute positioning in grid and flex containers
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Tests invalidated by future levels
PM
Wednesday
AM
PM
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Is it in scope for
CSS (and if not, where might it be solved)?
If in scope, what might a solution look like, roughly?
CSS Inline - Review edits, Review vertical alignment section, republish? (jdaggett dialin)
optional run
Thursday
AM
PM
will-change (on Thurs please) - smfr
Scroll snap followup
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Do we need two dimensional page floats (up and right)?
Do we need/want page floats in non-fragmenting contexts?
Do we need to be able to control the placement order of page floats within a fragmentainer?
Writing Modes - DoC and re-CR (jdaggett dialin)
Make sure Mozilla is OK with keyframe interaction decision
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Flexbox % followup
fill-available sizing
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TBD
Proposed Agenda Topics
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Snapshot 2015 and Prefix Policy
Writing Modes - DoC and re-CR (jdaggett dialin)
CSS Inline - Review edits, Review vertical alignment section, republish? (jdaggett dialin)
Grid Layout - Issues
User stylesheets (Chris)
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css cascade to informal LC?
css fragmentation
Percentage heights in grid and flex containers
Absolute positioning in grid and flex containers
Make sure Mozilla is OK with keyframe interaction decision
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fill-available sizing
FlexBox
CSS Round Display - demo, issues, FPWD? (early AM Wednesday)
will-change (on Thurs please) - smfr
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Do we need to say more about non-overlapping than that the margin boxes of given elements are not overlapping?
Do we need two dimensional page floats (up and right)?
Do we need/want page floats in non-fragmenting contexts?
Do we need to be able to control the placement order of page floats within a fragmentainer?
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Feedback from Tab
note about user-select:none and editing
caret-animation / caret-blink-time
appearance property
renaming user-select: text ?
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text-overflow: fade
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snap points & oversized elements - tab
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Is it in scope for
CSS (and if not, where might it be solved)?
If in scope, what might a solution look like, roughly?
Japanese Industry meet-up
css-text-4
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First draft of
@apply rule (simple mixins, powered by Custom Properties)
Miscellaneous
Proposed Agenda Topics [fx]
SVG images without intrinsic size in
CSS border-image (added by dino)
SVG-as-image and loading external resources (added by smfr)
Matrix Interpolation revisited (added by shans)
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Zoom Features for Media Queries (FX) (added by konno)
Old writing-mode values (FX) (added by heycam)
Dropping text-orientation:use-glyph-orientation (FX) (added by heycam)
getTransformToElement, for geometry utils level 2? (FX) (added by heycam)
path d property, wrapping in a path() function? (FX) (added by krit)