Paris F2F August 2015

• Host: Mozilla
• Dinner 7pm, Le Zinc des Cavistes
• Dates: Tuesday-Thursday, August 25-27, 2015
• Nearby events:
  • Editing TF meeting (Sunday-Monday 23-24)
  • Houdini meeting (Friday-Saturday 28-29)

• Part I: CSS Cascade, CSS Fragmentation, CSS Animations, CSS Text, TPAC Japanese Industry Meet-up, Number of F2F Meetings Per Year
• Part II: Flexbox, Grid/Flex Percentages, Testing
• Part III: CSS UI 4, CSS Text 4, User Stylesheets
• Part IV: Snapshot 2015 and Prefix Policy, @apply rule

• Part I: Round Display, Grid Layout
• Part II: Animations, Scroll Snapping
• Part III: Defining Pagination, CSS Priorities from DigiPub
• Part IV: CSS Inline

• Part I: FXTF Meeting Part 1- SVG Resources, SVG Images Without Intrinsic Size, Matrix Interpolation Revisited, SLERPing and 0deg angles
• Part II: FXTF Meeting Part 2- glyph-orientation, writing-mode Values from SVG 1.1, getTransformToElement, Path Animation, Zoom Features for Media Queries
• Part III: Selectors
• Part IV: will-change, Scroll Snap, Input Modality
• Part V: Page Floats, Writing Modes, Snapshot 2015, Flexbox % Follow-Up

Mozilla Paris, 16bis Boulevard Montmartre, 75009 Paris, France

See Mozilla Paris wiki for important directions on finding and entering the space

Some notes about transport in Paris around this week. There are some lines shut down for maintenance. In particular, I've seen signage that:

• RER line A (the middle east-west RER line through the center) is closed between La Defense and Auber exclusive (i.e., the western half of its run through the center of Paris) from July 25 through August 23, inclusive
• RER line C (the southern east-west RER line through the center) is closed between Avenue Henri Martin/Javel and Gare d'Austerlitz (exclusive), July 15 through August 22
• Metro line 4 (a north-south metro line through Paris) is closed north of Reaumur-Sebastopol (exclusive) from 27-30 August (inclusive). This includes its stops at Gare du Nord and Gare de l'Est, although other metro lines (including the 5) will still stop there

although I haven't found a central listing of all of the maintenance closures, although https://vianavigo.com/fr/actualites-trafic/ is close.

http://www.ratp.fr/informer/trafic/travaux_ratp.php lists all maintenance works on RER, Metro, and Tram lines.

(alphabetical by first name, plzkthx)

Regrets

Anton Prowse, John Daggett

• css cascade to informal LC?
• css fragmentation
  • naming issues
  • go to CR ?
• Control Characters Status Update from all UAs https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text/#white-space-processing - greg

• Japanese Industry meet-up

• FlexBox
  • remaining issues
  • CR?
• Percentage heights in grid and flex containers
• Absolute positioning in grid and flex containers
• max-content for flex items https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jul/0429.html
• Tests invalidated by future levels

• CSS UI
  • Feedback from Tab
    • note about user-select:none and editing
    • caret-animation / caret-blink-time
    • appearance property
    • renaming user-select: text ?
  • cursor behavior when elements overlap is ambiguous https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Aug/0010.html
  • text-overflow: fade
  • FPWD for CSS-UI-4?
• css-text-4
  • pre-wrap-* and longhands of white-space https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jun/0099.html
• User stylesheets (Chris)
• Snapshot 2015 and Prefix Policy
• First draft of @apply rule (simple mixins, powered by Custom Properties)

• CSS Round Display - demo, issues, FPWD? (early AM Wednesday)
• Grid Layout - Issues
• Animations 2
• snap points & oversized elements - tab

• Getting to pagination https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Aug/0179.html (dauwhe)
• “Priorities for CSS from the DPub IG” (Bert): I propose we try to say for each requirement (jdaggett dialin)
  1. Is it in scope for CSS (and if not, where might it be solved)?
  2. If in scope, what might a solution look like, roughly?
• CSS Inline - Review edits, Review vertical alignment section, republish? (jdaggett dialin)

• “running is not just for programs” - run to the Eiffel tower and back after the meeting, before the dinner!

FXTF

• selectors
  • selectors 4 issues

• will-change (on Thurs please) - smfr
• Scroll snap followup
• Input Modality (http://radar.oreilly.com/2015/08/proposing-css-input-modailty.html) - tab, bkardell (Thursday please)
• CSS Page Floats (on Thursday, see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jul/0410.html , https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Aug/0167.html , https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jun/0334.html ):
  • Do we need two dimensional page floats (up and right)?
  • Do we need/want page floats in non-fragmenting contexts?
  • Do we need to be able to control the placement order of page floats within a fragmentainer?
• Writing Modes - DoC and re-CR (jdaggett dialin)
• Make sure Mozilla is OK with keyframe interaction decision
• CSS Snapshot 2015
• Flexbox % followup
• fill-available sizing
• r12a would like us to switch to GitHub for all spec discussions

• CSS IG

• r12a would like us to switch to GitHub for all spec discussions
• Snapshot 2015 and Prefix Policy
• Writing Modes - DoC and re-CR (jdaggett dialin)
• CSS Inline - Review edits, Review vertical alignment section, republish? (jdaggett dialin)
• Grid Layout - Issues
• User stylesheets (Chris)
• CSS IG
• css cascade to informal LC?
• css fragmentation
  • naming issues
  • go to CR ?
• Percentage heights in grid and flex containers
• Absolute positioning in grid and flex containers
• Make sure Mozilla is OK with keyframe interaction decision
• Ruby? https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jul/0091.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jul/0165.html
• max-content for flex items https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jul/0429.html
• fill-available sizing
• FlexBox
  • remaining issues
  • CR?
• CSS Round Display - demo, issues, FPWD? (early AM Wednesday)
• will-change (on Thurs please) - smfr
• CSS Page Floats (on Thursday, see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jul/0410.html , https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Aug/0167.html , https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jun/0334.html ):
  • Do we need to say more about non-overlapping than that the margin boxes of given elements are not overlapping?
  • Do we need two dimensional page floats (up and right)?
  • Do we need/want page floats in non-fragmenting contexts?
  • Do we need to be able to control the placement order of page floats within a fragmentainer?
• CSS UI
  • Feedback from Tab
    • note about user-select:none and editing
    • caret-animation / caret-blink-time
    • appearance property
    • renaming user-select: text ?
  • cursor behavior when elements overlap is ambiguous https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Aug/0010.html
  • text-overflow: fade
  • FPWD for CSS-UI-4?
• Control Characters Status Update from all UAs https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text/#white-space-processing - greg
• Input Modality (http://radar.oreilly.com/2015/08/proposing-css-input-modailty.html) - tab, bkardell (Thursday please)
• snap points & oversized elements - tab
• “Priorities for CSS from the DPub IG” (Bert): I propose we try to say for each requirement (jdaggett dialin)
  1. Is it in scope for CSS (and if not, where might it be solved)?
  2. If in scope, what might a solution look like, roughly?
• Japanese Industry meet-up
• css-text-4
  • pre-wrap-* and longhands of white-space https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jun/0099.html
• Getting to pagination https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Aug/0179.html (dauwhe)
• First draft of @apply rule (simple mixins, powered by Custom Properties)

• plinss and fantasai should update hg.csswg.org/index.html

• SVG images without intrinsic size in CSS border-image (added by dino)
• SVG-as-image and loading external resources (added by smfr)
• Matrix Interpolation revisited (added by shans)
• SLERPing and 0deg angles (https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-fx/2015JulSep/0046.html) (added by shans)
• Zoom Features for Media Queries (FX) (added by konno)
• Old writing-mode values (FX) (added by heycam)
• Dropping text-orientation:use-glyph-orientation (FX) (added by heycam)
• getTransformToElement, for geometry utils level 2? (FX) (added by heycam)
• path d property, wrapping in a path() function? (FX) (added by krit)