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   * full TPAC week is 22-26 October 2018   * full TPAC week is 22-26 October 2018
   * CSS WG meeting days are Mon-Tue 22-23 from 9am to 6pm   * CSS WG meeting days are Mon-Tue 22-23 from 9am to 6pm
-  * Houdini meeting is Thu 25 November from 09:00-???+  * Houdini meeting is Thu 25 October from 09:00-???
   * Lyon, France at the Lyon Convention Center   * Lyon, France at the Lyon Convention Center
   * [[https://www.w3.org/2018/10/Meetup/|Monday night developer meetup]] (requires registration)   * [[https://www.w3.org/2018/10/Meetup/|Monday night developer meetup]] (requires registration)
 +  * Jiminy Panoz, a Lyon resident (and friend of EPUB and CSS), has posted a [[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nzfUxp1LWo5WqN1GymLLK14UCpFxmSsqw7pKi3zBSsY/edit|guide to Lyon]] for TPAC attendees
  
 ==== Participants ===== ==== Participants =====
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 | Alan Stearns | | | | | | Alan Stearns | | | | |
 | Chris Lilley | Sunday | Sunday | | | | Chris Lilley | Sunday | Sunday | | |
-| Dave Cramer | Sunday | Friday | | |+| Dave Cramer | Sunday | Friday | | |PWG most of Tuesday | 
 +| Dominik Röttsches | Sunday evening | Thursday evening | Marriott Cité Internationale | |
 | Emil A Eklund | Sunday 16:45 | Saturday 06:50 | Marriott Cité Internationale | BA284+BA362 / BA365+BA285 | | Emil A Eklund | Sunday 16:45 | Saturday 06:50 | Marriott Cité Internationale | BA284+BA362 / BA365+BA285 |
 | Eric Willigers | Saturday | Sunday | Crowne Plaza Lyon |  | | Eric Willigers | Saturday | Sunday | Crowne Plaza Lyon |  |
-| fantasai | Monday 8:50am | Friday-ish |  |  | +| fantasai | Monday 8:50am | Friday-ish |  |  | Early Monday Morning | 
-| Florian Rivoal | Sunday | Saturday-ish |  |  |+| Florian Rivoal | Sunday | Sunday | Temporim Lyon Cité Internationale | | at AC meeting 15h00-17h00 Tuesday |
 | François REMY | Sunday | TBD |  |  | | François REMY | Sunday | TBD |  |  |
 | Hiroshi Sakakibara | Sunday | Saturday |  |  | | Hiroshi Sakakibara | Sunday | Saturday |  |  |
 | Jen Simmons | Sunday | Thursday | Marriott |  | | Jen Simmons | Sunday | Thursday | Marriott |  |
-| Jihye Hong | Sunday | Saturday | ibis |  |+| Jihye Hong | Sunday | Saturday | ibis |  | Early Monday afternoon|
 | Lea Verou | Sunday | Sunday | | | | Lea Verou | Sunday | Sunday | | |
 | L. David Baron | Saturday 16:00 | Saturday 17:04 | Hôtel le Roosevelt | AF83+[[https://www.sncf.com/fr/itineraire-reservation/recherche-numero-train/details-train/5119?date=20%2F10%2F2018&codeCirculation=OCESN005119F02005&codeZoneArret=OCE87223263|TGV5119]] / [[https://www.sncf.com/fr/itineraire-reservation/recherche-numero-train/details-train/6626?codeCirculation=OCESN006626F01004&codeZoneArret=OCE87722025&date=27%2F10%2F2018|TGV6626]] | probably at TAG roughly 09h00-10h00 Monday; at AC meeting 15h00-17h00 Tuesday | | L. David Baron | Saturday 16:00 | Saturday 17:04 | Hôtel le Roosevelt | AF83+[[https://www.sncf.com/fr/itineraire-reservation/recherche-numero-train/details-train/5119?date=20%2F10%2F2018&codeCirculation=OCESN005119F02005&codeZoneArret=OCE87223263|TGV5119]] / [[https://www.sncf.com/fr/itineraire-reservation/recherche-numero-train/details-train/6626?codeCirculation=OCESN006626F01004&codeZoneArret=OCE87722025&date=27%2F10%2F2018|TGV6626]] | probably at TAG roughly 09h00-10h00 Monday; at AC meeting 15h00-17h00 Tuesday |
 +| Majid Valipour| Sunday | Friday|AirBnB| | |
 | Manuel Rego | Sunday | Thursday's night |  |  | | Manuel Rego | Sunday | Thursday's night |  |  |
 +| Melanie Richards | Saturday | Sunday | Crown Plaza | |
 | Myles C. Maxfield |  |  |  |  | | Myles C. Maxfield |  |  |  |  |
 +| Rachel Andrew | Sunday 16:45 | Saturday 06:50 | Marriott | BA362, BA365 |
 | Rakina Amni |  |  |  |  | | Rakina Amni |  |  |  |  |
 +| Rossen Atanassov | Sunday | Friday | Crowne Plaza | |
 | Rune Lillesveen | Sunday | Friday-ish |  |  | | Rune Lillesveen | Sunday | Friday-ish |  |  |
 | Simon Fraser | ? | ? |  |  | | Simon Fraser | ? | ? |  |  |
 +| Surma | Sunday | Saturday | Crowne Plaza|
 | Tab Atkins | ? | ? | ? | | | Tab Atkins | ? | ? | ? | |
 | Tantek Çelik | Monday | Thursday | Hôtel le Roosevelt | | | Tantek Çelik | Monday | Thursday | Hôtel le Roosevelt | |
 | Fuqiao Xue | Sunday | Saturday |  |  | | Fuqiao Xue | Sunday | Saturday |  |  |
 +| Chris Harrelson | Saturday | Saturday |  |  |
 +| Dirk Schulze | | | | |
  
 Regrets: Regrets:
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 ==== Proposed Agenda ==== ==== Proposed Agenda ====
  
-  * Environment Variables spec 
-  * Initial Letter Layout Model and other CSS Inline Layout Issues (could this happen Monday? --dauwhe) 
-  * [[https://wicg.github.io/construct-stylesheets/index.html|Constructable Stylesheets]] (Tuesday) 
-    * [[https://github.com/WICG/construct-stylesheets/issues/23|Can the same constructed stylesheet be used in two different Documents?]] 
-    * [[https://github.com/WICG/construct-stylesheets/issues/15|Need to define what fetch groups various loads from the sheet go in]] 
-    * [[https://github.com/WICG/construct-stylesheets/issues/34|Can we use CSSStyleSheets from <style>/<link> in adoptedStyleSheets?]] 
-    * [[https://github.com/WICG/construct-stylesheets/issues/36|Should we use FrozenArray instead of StyleSheetList for adoptedStyleSheets]] 
-    * Should this spec move from WICG to CSS WG? 
-    * Blink is interested in shipping.  
-  * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3118|text-underline-offset]] 
-  * [[https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-4/#text-spacing-property|text-spacing]] 
-  * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1744|Propose adding lang as a font-face descriptor]] ideally with I18n Core  
-  * Identify new people to represent the CSSWG in the CSS a11y task force 
-  * Scrollbar Styling - FPWD, experimental implementation(s), and maybe even demo(s)? 
-  * CSS-UI 
-    * Path forward for the appearance property (https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3024)—Florian 
-    * fieldset/legend (https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3094)—Florian 
-    * Dark mode and native form controls (discussion)—fremy 
-    * Should we define outline more tightly and aim for close interop, or leave it open to UI innovation? (see [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3184|3184]] for a recent example, but also the spec is full of "may")—Florian 
- 
-  * Apple's color-filter proposal (status gathering)—fremy 
-  * Spatial Navigation—Jihye&Florian 
 ==== Schedule ==== ==== Schedule ====
  
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 (9am schedule wrangling and introductions) (9am schedule wrangling and introductions)
 +
 +  * Accessibility API Mappings (https://w3c.github.io/html-aam/) - What it is, how it matters to CSS, when we need to ping a11y people about implications. Focus on display:contents being unexpectedly troublesome. -- Alice Boxhall
 +  * Identify new people to represent the CSSWG in the CSS a11y task force
 +  * [css-break-4] control space before element depending on page position: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/253
  
 10am - Break 10am - Break
 +
 +  * [css-align] gap properties for block layout: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3068
 +  * css-multicol 
 +    * What happens to the mbp of the empty fragment created by a spanner being first-child of an element: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2552
 +    * Margin collapsing does not make sense with column-spans: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2203
 +    * Improve column-fill and make it backward-compatible: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3224
 +
 +  * Css-text-3:
 +    * Revisit text-align shorthanding text-align-last: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3117
 +    * word-wrap/overflow-wrap: break-word should affect min-content https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2682
 +  * Text-4
 +    * Allow letter-spacing to have unitless values like line-height: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2165
 +    * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3229|[css-text-4] Text-spacing is too strict]]
  
 12pm - Lunch 12pm - Lunch
  
 == Afternoon == == Afternoon ==
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 +  * [css-flexbox] Investigate applying align-content to single-line flex containers: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3052
 +
 +  * Initial Letter Layout Model and other CSS Inline Layout Issues (could this happen Monday? --dauwhe)
 +    * Should first/last baseline values of `vertical-align` belong to `alignment-baseline` or separate longhand? https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/861
 +    * better name for initial-letters property: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2950
 +
 +  * Css-overflow-3
 +    * Intrinsic sizing of elements with continue:discard https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3214
 +    * Define the behavior of overly long block ellipsis strings https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3213
 +    * block-overflow, ::first-line, and ::first letter https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2906
 +    * Allowing (or not) alternate ellipsis behavior for block-overflow https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2905
  
 3pm - Joint meeting with the Math on Web Pages CG 3pm - Joint meeting with the Math on Web Pages CG
 +
 +    * vertically align to nth-child: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1339
  
 3:30pm - break 3:30pm - break
 +
 +4pm - Joint meeting with [[https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/wiki/TPAC-2018|WPT]]
 +
 +  * [[https://wicg.github.io/scroll-animations/ | Scroll-linked Animations ]] - Spec is on WICG and Blink now has a partial experimental implementation (majidvp@ can demo). Gathering status and see if there is interest in moving it (or a subset) forward.
 +
 +  * CSS-UI
 +    * fieldset/legend (https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3094)—Florian
 +    * Dark mode and native form controls (discussion)—fremy
 +    * Should we define outline more tightly and aim for close interop, or leave it open to UI innovation? (see [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3184|3184]] for a recent example, but also the spec is full of "may")—Florian
  
 === Tuesday === === Tuesday ===
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 (start at 9am - the room will be occupied until then) (start at 9am - the room will be occupied until then)
 +
 +  * Spatial Navigation — Jihye and Florian (prefers Tuesday, not during AC meeting, definitely avoid Monday early afternoon and avoid from 5pm Tuesday)
 +  * css-fonts-4
 +    *  src: local() font unique name matching ambiguous & restricts matched locale https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3177
 +  * [css-overscroll-behavior] Moving [[https://drafts.csswg.org/css-overscroll-behavior/|spec]] to FPWD. This was recently migrated from WICG.
 +  * aspect-ratio draft proposal: https://drafts.csswg.org/css-sizing-4/#ratios
  
 10am - Break 10am - Break
 +
 +  * [css-shadow-parts] confirm browser support (Tuesday): https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2368
  
 11am - Joint meeting with [[https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/2018TPACAgenda|i18n]] 11am - Joint meeting with [[https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/2018TPACAgenda|i18n]]
 +
 +  * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1744|Propose adding lang as a font-face descriptor]] ideally with I18n Core 
 +  * [css-logical] Flow-relative syntax for `margin`-like shorthands: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1282
  
 12pm - Lunch 12pm - Lunch
  
 == Afternoon == == Afternoon ==
 +
 +  * Environment Variables spec - path to fpwd?
 +  * [[https://wicg.github.io/construct-stylesheets/index.html|Constructable Stylesheets]] (Tuesday) -- Rakina & Eric & Tab
 +    * [[https://github.com/WICG/construct-stylesheets/issues/23|Can the same constructed stylesheet be used in two different Documents?]]
 +    * [[https://github.com/WICG/construct-stylesheets/issues/15|Need to define what fetch groups various loads from the sheet go in]]
 +    * [[https://github.com/WICG/construct-stylesheets/issues/34|Can we use CSSStyleSheets from <style>/<link> in adoptedStyleSheets?]]
 +    * [[https://github.com/WICG/construct-stylesheets/issues/36|Should we use FrozenArray instead of StyleSheetList for adoptedStyleSheets]]
 +    * Should this spec move from WICG to CSS WG?
 +    * Blink is interested in shipping.
 +  * CSS-UI
 +    * Path forward for the appearance property (https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3024)—Florian
  
 3:30pm - break 3:30pm - break
 +
 +  * Scrollbar Styling - FPWD, experimental implementation(s), and maybe even demo(s)?
 +    * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3237|getComputedStyle and scrollbar-color]]
 +  * Effect of filter element on root element https://github.com/w3c/fxtf-drafts/issues/282 --chrishtr
 +  * backdrop-filter spec issues: https://github.com/w3c/fxtf-drafts/issues/53
 +  * Text-decoration
 +    * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3118|text-underline-offset]]
 +    * Rename text-decoration-width?
 +    * text-underline-offset and text-underline-width has no easy way of being proportional to font size: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3121
 +  * [CSS-cascade] import only in moment when we need it: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3050
 +  * [css-conditional-4] selector() feature query function for selector support: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3207
 +  * [selectors4] Name the “functional pseudo-class like :matches() with 0 specificity”: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2143
  
 === Thursday === === Thursday ===
 
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