Cupertino F2F July 2023
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Cupertino F2F July 2023

Host: Apple
Location: One Apple Park Way, Cupertino CA 95014, USA
- Visitor entrance is at Tantau Reception Center, 10503 North Tantau Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014. This is adjacent to the intersection of North Tantau Avenue and Pruneridge Avenue.
- Conference room is named “Space Oddity” in Section 2
- If you're driving there, the visitor parking is in an underground garage whose entrance is at this point, adjacent to the Apple Park Visitor Center, 10600 North Tantau Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014. This is just across North Tantau Avenue from the visitor entrance.
Weather Forecast: ⁰C or ⁰F, Current Weather Conditions: ⁰C or ⁰F
Dates: Tuesday 18 July - Friday 21 July 2023
Times: 8am-4pm (early start to accommodate Europe dial-ins)
- 7:30am - reception open for visitors, breakfast available
- 8am - meeting start
- 9:30am-10am morning break
- 12:00pm-1pm lunch break
- 2:00pm-2:30pm afternoon break
- 4pm - meeting end
Scheduled Extras:
- Lightning Pitches - 1min-5min informal pitches to ask for engagement on particular issues, concerns, or feature requests that aren't ready for formal discussion
- Wednesday evening - host dinner, 6:30 PM outside on the patio at Water Tower Kitchen: 201 Orchard City Drive, Campbell, CA 95008 https://www.watertowerkitchen.com
- Thursday evening - DIY backyard barbecue, fantasai &co hosting, 10min drive from Apple, extra guests welcome, please come even if you're local…
Airports:
- SJC - San Jose Airport (16km drive, closest, be careful to use correct airport code)
- SFO - San Francisco Airport (54km drive, major hub)
- OAK - Oakland Airport (69km drive)
Dial-in info for virtual attendees

Agenda

https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/projects/38

Meeting Minutes

Goals

Reduce Agenda+ backlog:
Allow time and space for fuzzier open-ended discussions and breakouts
Post-pandemic repair of group communication and collaboration (particularly across company boundaries)

Possible breakout topics

Line-breaking and related features in CSS Text Level 4
line-clamp, continue: discard, and friends (also listed as a main track topic, but a break-out might be useful for a deep-dive, before bringing back potential conclusions to the main track) (Andreu Botella would like to join remotely. Europe-friendly scheduling appreciated)
??? Add Suggestions Here ???

Regular-track topics

In addition to Agenda+ F2F Issues…

Anchor Positioning
Masonry?
CSS Grid Layout L1 fixes (any output from Tab+Oriol+fantasai’s workday on Monday)
Line-clamp (Andreu Botella would like to join remotely. Europe-friendly scheduling appreciated)
styling of details elements (see somewhat draft-y document) (could be a lightning pitch, except I think a little discussion would be useful)
??? Add topics you want to discuss / present here so the chairs can schedule them ???
FXTF/Houdini - merging back into CSSWG?
Future of SVG - WG has been effectively dead for years, should we take it over? Do something else?

Lightning Pitches

1min-5min informal pitches to ask for CSSWG’s attention / help on particular issues, concerns, or feature requests that aren't ready for formal discussion, see Lightning Pitches Description. Register your name and/or topics below if you want the wiki to help you remember.

Sebastian Zartner: Advanced transforms
Yehonatan Daniv: animation-trigger, issue
Yehonatan Daniv: Expand filter capabilities, reference tweet
Christopher Cameron: Dynamic range limit for HDR content issue, proposal, slides
David Baron: focusability of `display: contents`; see mozilla/standards-positions#772 and WebKit/standards-positions#164
fantasai: counters() nonsense
Sebastian Zartner: feature testing nesting + avoid double-importing stylesheets
bramus: `@config`
fantasai: CSS Grid and CSS Flexbox should not be 3-5 years out of date.
bramus: Animation Timelines
bramus: catering for scrollbars – overflow state query + issue + issue
Sebastian Zartner: cropping in the middle of a string

Attendees

Hosts

Apple attendees who can help visitors with issues they may encounter during the F2F.

IN-PERSON SIGN-UPS ARE NOW CLOSED!!!

Name	Arrival	Departure	Hotel	Dietary Restrictions	Flights or Other Notes
Theresa O'Connor (hober)	local	local	local
fantasai	early	late	AirBnB	gluten-free appreciated
Tim Nguyen (ntim)	local	local	local
Megan Gardner	local	local	local
Jen Simmons	week before	week after	nearby hotel	will get my own food since I cannot eat 99% of foods / can only eat about 12 ingredients
Simon Fraser	local	local	local
Myles C. Maxfield	local	local	local
Brandon Stewart	Jul 16	Jul 22	nearby hotel	none
Sammy Gill	Jul 17	Jul 22	Residence Inn Cupertino		AS 3453, AS 3498

IN-PERSON SIGN-UPS ARE NOW CLOSED!!!

In-Person Participants

When in a U-shape configuration, the room has capacity for 30 people. But the maximum capacity of the room is 160, so we can probably squeeze a few more than 30 in pretty comfortably.

IN-PERSON SIGN-UPS ARE NOW CLOSED!!!

Name	Arrival	Departure	Hotel	Dietary Restrictions	Flights or Other Notes
Alan	Jul 17	Jul 21	Courtyard by Marriot Sunnyvale		Will rent car, can give people rides from the NW direction if needed
Rachel Andrew	Jul 17	Jul 23	Homewood Suites Silicon Valley	I made a list.	BA283 + AA4863 - AS2401 + BA282
Oriol Brufau	Jul 15	Jul 22	AirBnB	Strong dislike of cheese and shellfish
Bramus	Jul 16	Jul 26	Wild Palms Hotel	None	SAS 594+935 - SAS 936+597
Miriam Suzanne	Jul 17	Jul 22	AirBnB	vegetarian
Rossen	Jul 18	Jul 22	AirBnB	pescatarian
ChangSeok Oh	local	local	local
Tab Atkins-Bittner	local	local	local
David Baron	Jul 17	Jul 21	Wild Palms Hotel	no red meat	UA 1742 (Mon 15:25 SFO), UA 2046 (Fri 21:35 SFO)
Sebastian Zartner	July 17	July 22	AirBnB	no shellfish	UA 195 (Mon 14:20 SFO), UA 8882 (Sat 21:10 SFO)
Florian Rivoal	July 17	July 22	AirBnB	omnivore	KL2084+KL5192 / AF2840+AF0009
Ian Kilpatrick	local	local	local	no shellfish
Cassondra Roberts	Jul 17	Jul 21	Element Santa Clara	mostly vegan but flexible w/honey, fish, etc.	Delta into SJC
Daniel Holbert	local	local	local	None	Planning to attend in-person for at least one day (not sure yet which day(s))
Nicole Sullivan	local	local	local
Tantek Çelik	local	local	local	vegan	solid maybe, and tbd which days and for how long
Emilio Cobos	July 17	July 22	AirBnB	omnivore

IN-PERSON SIGN-UPS ARE NOW CLOSED!!!

Virtual Participants

Dial-in info can be found in the w3c-css-wg archives.

Please list your availability in California time (morning/afternoon/all or specific time ranges). See Time Converter

Name	Timezone	PDT Availability	Other Notes
François Remy	CEST (PDT+9)	08:00-16:00	Tuesday for two hours, All the other days until I fall asleep (possibly until EOD, as I'm jetlagged)
Yehonatan Daniv	IDT (PDT+10)	08:00-15:00
Chris Lilley	EEST (PDT+10)	08:00-11:00	unable to travel
Lea Verou	EEST (PDT+10)	9am-11am every day, also 8am-9am on Fri
Vladimir Levin	EDT	08:00-15:00
Rob Flack	EDT	08:00-15:00
Jonathan Kew	(PDT+8)	08:00-14:00	Part-time, depending on schedule of agenda topics
Vitor Ribeiro Roriz	CEST
Cameron McCormack	AEST (PDT+17)	13:00-17:00	Will be in and out Tue-Thu afternoons, not available Fri
Matthieu Dubet	CEST (PDT+9)
Khushal Sagar	EDT	08:00-16:00	Can attend all day Tuesday + Wednesday. Won't be able to attend the last 2 days
David Leininger	EDT		Double booked for a week long office event in NYC. Will in and out as available.
Mason Freed	PDT	08:00-16:00	Very part-time, depending on agenda
Fernando Serboncini	EDT	08:00-16:00
Federico Bucchi	PDT	09:00-13:00
Jennifer Strickland	EDT	all	in and out
Una Kravets	EDT	all	in and out
Mu-An Chiou	PDT+15	08:00-09:00, 15:00-16:00	timezones
Adam Argyle	PDT	all	in and out
Delan Azabani	AWST (PDT+15)	08:00-11:00
Peter Linss	PDT	08:00-16:00
Noam Rosenthal	PDT+10	10:00-11:30	Available Tue-Thu
Joey Arhar	PDT
Stephen Chenney	EDT	8:00 - 13:00, limited other times	Highlight pseudo issues + others of interest
Xiaocheng Hu	PDT
Alison Maher	PDT	all	Part-time, depending on agenda
Andreu Botella	CEST	08:00-14:00	Preferably 8:00-12:00
Christopher Cameron	CEST	12:00-15:00	in and out
Chris Harrelson	PDT	8:00-16:00	In and out
Greg Whitworth	PDT	08:00-16:00	Tooltip & Anchor positioning

Regrets

Name
Bobby Jo Steffl

Table of Contents

Cupertino F2F July 2023

Agenda

Meeting Minutes

Goals

Possible breakout topics

Regular-track topics

Lightning Pitches

Attendees

Hosts

In-Person Participants

Virtual Participants

Regrets