====== CSSWG 3nd Virtual F2F, at TPAC 2020 ====== [[https://www.w3.org/2020/10/TPAC/|TPAC Virtual Meeting]] is scheduled for **October 2020** * 12-16 October for [[https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2020/GroupMeetings|joint meetings with other groups]] (TBD groups include I18N, TTWG, APA, MathML?, SVGWG?) * 19-23 October for our own meetings; see [[https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2020/GroupMeetings|W3C-wide group meeting calendar]] * 26-30 October is [[https://www.w3.org/2020/10/TPAC/breakout-schedule.html|breakout week]] ===== Dial-in Logistics ===== Links to Meet: TBD ===== Schedule ===== [[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=202012T17|October 12 (13) 17:00 UTC]] - [[https://github.com/WICG/open-ui/blob/master/meetings/telecon/tpac-openui-csswg-oct-2020.md|Joint Meeting with Open UI]] 7pm - 11pm Paris 6pm - 10pm London 1pm - 5pm New York 10am - 3pm San Francisco 2am - 6am Tokyo 4am - 8am Melbourne [[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=202014T15|October 14 (15) 15:00 UTC]] - Joint Meeting with Accessibility ([[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-css-wg/2020OctDec/0034.html|Dial-in Info]]) 5pm - 6pm Paris 4pm - 5pm London 11am - 12pm New York 8am - 9am San Francisco 12am - 1am Tokyo 2am - 3am Melbourne [[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20201015T15|October 15 (16) 15:00 UTC]] - [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Oct/0003.html|Joint Meeting with Internationalization]] ([[https://www.w3.org/2017/09/i18n-meeting-info.html|using i18n dial-in info]]) 5pm - 6pm Paris 4pm - 5pm London 11am - 12pm New York 8am - 9am San Francisco 12am - 1am Tokyo 2am - 3am Melbourne [[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20201019T14|October 19 (20) 14:00 UTC]]- [[https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/TPAC_2020_meeting#color|Joint Meeting with Color on the Web CG, Media and Entertainment IG (about HDR)]] 4pm - 5pm Paris 3pm - 4pm London 10am - 11am New York 7am - 8am San Francisco 11pm - 12am Tokyo 1am - 2am Melbourne [[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20201019T20|October 19 (20) 20:00 UTC]] - CSSWG ([[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-css-wg/2020OctDec/0042.html|Dial-in]]) 10pm - 1am Paris 9pm - 12am London 4pm - 7pm New York 1pm - 4pm San Francisco 5am - 8am Tokyo 7am - 10am Melbourne [[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20201020T20|October 20 (21) 20:00 UTC]]- CSSWG ([[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-css-wg/2020OctDec/0042.html|Dial-in]]) 10pm - 1am Paris 9pm - 12am London 4pm - 7pm New York 1pm - 4pm San Francisco 5am - 8am Tokyo 7am - 10am Melbourne [[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20201022T14|October 22 (23) 14:00 UTC]]- CSSWG ([[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-css-wg/2020OctDec/0042.html|Dial-in]]) 4pm - 7pm Paris 3pm - 6pm London 10am - 1pm New York 7am - 10am San Francisco 11pm - 2am Tokyo 1am - 4am Melbourne [[https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20201023T14|October 23 (24) 14:00 UTC]] - CSSWG ([[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-css-wg/2020OctDec/0042.html|Dial-in]]) 4pm - 7pm Paris 3pm - 6pm London 10am - 1pm New York 7am - 10am San Francisco 11pm - 2am Tokyo 1am - 4am Melbourne ===== Venue tech ===== Meet. Details on the member-only list: TBD We will use #css on IRC for all meeting coordination. People can use the chat in Meet for backchannel conversations, but please do not expect the meeting chairs or scribe to notice or follow that extra channel. ===== Participants ===== | **Name** | **Affiliation** | Monday | Tuesday | Thursday | Friday | | Alan Stearns | Adobe | yes | yes | yes | yes | | Cameron McCormack | Mozilla | yes | yes | no | no | | Chris Lilley | W3C| yes | yes | yes | yes | | Devin Rousso | Apple | yes | yes | yes | yes | | fantasai | Invited Expert | yes | yes | yes | yes | | Jen Simmons | Apple, Inc. | yes | yes | yes | yes | | Lea Verou | Invited Expert | no | no | yes | yes | | Myles C. Maxfield | Apple, Inc. | yes | yes | yes | yes | | Morgan Rae Reschenberg | Mozilla | yes | yes | yes | yes | | Oriol Brufau | Igalia | yes | yes | yes | yes | | Rachel Andrew | Fronteers | no | no | yes | yes | | Rossen Atanassov | Microsoft | no | yes | yes | yes | | Simon Fraser | Apple, Inc. | 2nd half | yes | some | some | | Tantek Çelik | Mozilla | yes | yes | yes | yes | | Ting-Yu Lin | Mozilla | yes | yes | yes | yes | | Daniel Holbert | Mozilla | no | yes | no | no | If you can't make one of the days, mark any topics you want to be present for with a milestone for a day you can attend. ===== Agenda Schedule ===== === Monday === [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3ATPAC-2020-08-19|Issues by milestone]] * Republishing Tasks [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5613|5613]] * [css-grid-1] Fix aspect-ratio errors in css-grid-1 [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5615|5615]] * [css-grid] Resolution of percentage row tracks and gutters with indefinite height [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5566|5566]] * [css-2020] Clear 'aspect-ratio' for shipping [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5598|5598]] * How widely should HTML's 'aspect-ratio' presentational attribute be applied? [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5608|5608]] * Revisiting standardization of the `zoom` property [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5623|5623]] * Updating the css `env()` function to enable selection by index from a list of pre-defined environment variables [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5622|5622]] * [css-values-4] Ratio of `0/0`? [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4954|4954]] * [cssom] [mediaqueries] Media query serialization doesn't work for newer spec features [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5627|5627]] * [mediaqueries-5] duplication of `forced-colors: active` and `prefers-contrast: forced` [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5433|5433]] * [mediaqueries-5] Updating the CSS media feature syntax for foldable & dual-screen devices [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5621|5621]] === Tuesday === [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3ATPAC-2020-08-20|Issues by milestone]] * Masonry [[https://raw.githack.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/master/layout/docs/css-grid-3/Overview.html|Draft]] [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4650|4650]] * [css-contain-2] Proposal: content-visibility: hidden-matchable [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5595|5595]] * [css-contain] contain:size needs to mention its effect on aspect-ratio [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5585|5585]] * [css-contain] Computed value of shortcut values [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5511|5511]] * [css-contain-2] Combination of shortcuts and values [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5506|5506]] * [css-contain] Terminology question [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5590|5590]] * [css-sizing-4] Use cases for explicit intrinsic-size [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4585|4585]] * [css-sizing-3] Why was min-content, etc. redefined to do nothing in the block axis? [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3973|3973]] * [css-sizing] cyclic percentage concept should not exist [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3010|3010]] * [css-sizing-3][css-images-3] Distinguish intrinsic size's two definitions with two terms [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4961|4961]] * [css-sizing-4][css-contain] Clarify on specifying aspect-ratio and contain:size on replaced elements [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5550|5550]] * [css-logical-1] Interaction of shorthands and logical properties [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3030|3030]] === Thursday === [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3ATPAC-2020-08-22|Issues by milestone]] * [css-variables][css-conditional] is trailing semicolon valid in @supports conditions [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3171|3171]] * [css-conditional-3] define whether/how it matters if namespace prefixes are declared [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3220|3220]] * [css-conditional-3] Are there issues with !important in @supports? (Is the grammar wrong?) [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5559|5559]] * [css-color][cssom] Serialization of specified values [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1004|1004]] * [cssom][css-color] Need clarification on serialization of `rgb` & `rgba` in light of css-color-4's syntax changes [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/585|585]] * [css-images-3] Allow impls to not respect exif data if it's after the image data [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4929|4929]] * [css-images] Integrate with SVG Integration spec [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4640|4640]] * [css2][css-images] Zero or infinite intrinsic ratio [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4572|4572]] * [css-images] Should the values of image-orientation include the variants? [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4164|4164]] * [css-text-3][css-fonts-3][css-text-decor-3] Distinguish applying to text vs applying to boxes [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5303|5303]] * [css-fonts] Reduce layout shift via @font-face descriptor(s) overriding inline spacing [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5533|5533]] * [css-lists] CSS counter scope/inheritance is incompatible with HTML ordinals [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5477|5477]] * [css-color] Prevent fingerprinting with deprecated system colors [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3873|3873]] * [css-color-adjust] Re-add `only` to mean "don't auto-adjust me", per WebKit's behavior [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5089|5089]] * [css-color-adjust-1] Is forced color computed or used value? [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4915|4915]] * [css-color-adjust-1] more granular overriding of forced colors mode than per-element [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4178|4178]] * [css-color] Change three color names [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5284|5284]] === Friday === [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3ATPAC-2020-08-23|Issues by milestone]] * [css-multicol] Containing block of column spanners [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5612|5612]] * [css-grid] Resolution of percentage row tracks and gutters with indefinite height [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5566|5566]] * HTML wants to mint the :modal pseudoclass for modal elements [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4645|4645]] * [css-logical-1] Order of inheritance vs. mapping in logical properties [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3029|3029]] * [css-break-3] rules for direction to use when slicing inline borders for box-decoration-break:slice are unclear [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4989|4989]] * [css-break] Specify that ink overflow doesn't fragment? [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4099|4099]] * [css-break-4] orphans and widows for fragmented monolithic replaced elements [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3405|3405]] * [css-break-4] Should fragmentation of block-level replaced-elements be configurable? ("object-slice") [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3404|3404]] * [css-overflow] CSSOM scrollWidth/scrollHeight behaviour of "overflow: clip". [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5572|5572]] * [cssom-view] [css-overflow] Document.scrollingElement doesn't reflect viewport propagation correctly in presence of overflow: clip [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5601|5601]] * [css-pseudo] Problems with styling ::first-letter with punctuation [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2040|2040]] * [css-display][css-pseudo] Is ::marker created by display:list-item or does it always exist? [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1793|1793]] * [css-pseudo-4] ::selection vs ::inactive-selection [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4579|4579]] * [css-sizing] how should inline-axis intrinsic sizing work for 'fit-content' and 'fit-content()'? [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3731|3731]] * Allow specifying the "accent color" of a form control element [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5187|5187]] (after 9am) ===== Proposed Agenda ===== Please mark issues with the ''Agenda+ TPAC'' or ''Agenda+ F2F'' tag, and assign them to one of the TPAC-2020-* milestones if you have a preference for which day the discussion happens. TODO: Add the full list of issues on GitHub explicitly here. * https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/labels/Agenda%2B%20F2F + https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/labels/Agenda%2B%20TPAC * https://github.com/w3c/fxtf-drafts/labels/Agenda%2B%20F2F + https://github.com/w3c/fxtf-drafts/labels/Agenda%2B%20TPAC * https://github.com/w3c/css-houdini-drafts/labels/Agenda%2B%20F2F + https://github.com/w3c/css-houdini-drafts/labels/Agenda%2B%20TPAC * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5647|Baseline alignment for text]] [myles] * CSS Conditional 3 [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5559|Are there issues with !important in @supports? (Is the grammar wrong?)]] * CSS Conditional 3 [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3220|define whether/how it matters if namespace prefixes are declared]] * CSS Conditional 3 [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3171|is trailing semicolon valid in @supports conditions]] * Adopting [[https://raw.githack.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/master/layout/docs/css-grid-3/Overview.html|Masonry proposal]] into a spec (start of Day 2, so Mats can call in) * CSS Color 4 [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1004|Serialization of specified values]] and [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/585|Need clarification on serialization of `rgb` & `rgba` in light of css-color-4's syntax changes]] and [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/480|Serializing color() values]] just to be sure before taking this out of CSSOM and fully defining in CSS Color 4, for all syntaxes, not just the rgb ones