====== Tokyo F2F 2013 ====== **When**: June 5-7, 2013 **Where**: Tokyo, Japan * Meeting location: [[http://www.google.com/about/company/facts/locations/|Google Japan]] office in Roppongi Hills ([[http://goo.gl/maps/pey0a|map]]) * Getting there: Take the [[http://www.tokyometro.jp/en/index.html|Tokyo Metro]] Hibiya line or the Toei Oedo line to Roppongi station. From the station, follow [[http://goo.gl/maps/aiAPq|the route on Google maps]] to the Google office in Mori Tower. Or use the access information for the [[http://www.mori.art.museum/eng/info/access.html|Mori Art Museum]] which is in the same location. **Host**: Google Japan **Note**: There will be a [[http://testthewebforward.org/events/tokyo-2013.html|Test The Web Forward event]] in Tokyo Friday, June 7 (evening) and Saturday, June 8 at the same location. The [[http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Tokyo_2013|SVG WG]] will be meeting Monday and Tuesday at [[http://goo.gl/maps/AgnR9|Mozilla Japan]] prior to the CSS F2F. There will also be a workshop on [[https://www.w3.org/2013/06/ebooks/|eBooks and Internationalization]] on Tuesday at Keio University in [[http://www.keio.ac.jp/en/maps/mita.html|Mita]]. The W3C AC Committee meeting takes place the [[https://www.w3.org/Member/Eventscal.html|following week]], also at Keio in Mita. ===== Meeting Minutes ===== **Wednesday, 5 June:** * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jun/0677.html|(with SVG) Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-05 Wed AM I: Web Animations]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jun/0678.html|(with SVG) Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-05 Wed AM II: Stroke/Fill on Text, SVG Text Wrapping]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jun/0679.html|(with SVG) Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-05 Wed PM II: Compositing and Blending]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jun/0680.html|(with SVG) Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-05 Wed PM II: Zoom Media Queries, CSS XSS, Shapes Deps]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jun/0682.html|Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-05 Wed PM III: Counter Styles, Cascade]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jun/0683.html|Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-05 Wed PM IV: Syntax and Conditional Rules, Variables]] **Thursday, 6 June:** * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jul/0063.html|Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-06 Thu AM I: CSSWG Priorities]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jul/0064.html|Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-06 Thu AM II/PM I: Syntax]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jul/0065.html|Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-06 Thu PM I: Fonts Part I]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jul/0066.html|Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-06 Thu PM II: Events, Fragmentation, Shapes]] **Friday, 7 June:** * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jul/0079.html|Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-07 Fri Noonish: Grid Layout]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jul/0080.html|Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-07 Fri AM PM I: Fonts]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jul/0081.html|Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-07 Fri PM II: Backporting Changes, Text Decoration, Table Cell Stacking Contexts]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jul/0082.html|Minutes Tokyo F2F 2013-06-07 PM III: Reversing Transitions, Parens and Escapes, Alignment]] ===== Hosted Dinner ===== The hosted dinner is on Thursday night at [[http://bento.com/rev/1604.html|Hassan]], a shabu-shabu restaurant in Roppongi. [[https://maps.google.com/maps?q=35.662412,139.731322|Location]] ===== Lodging ===== There are a number of hotels close to [[http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3031_hills.html|Roppongi Hills]]. The [[http://www.theb-hotels.com/the-b-roppongi/en/#|B Roppongi]] is relatively new and reasonably priced. [[https://www.roomorama.com/short-term-rentals/tokyo/roppongi|Apartment rental]] is also an [[https://www.airbnb.com/s/Roppongi--Minato--Tokyo--Japan?checkin=06%2F04%2F2013&checkout=06%2F08%2F2013|option]] in the area. For something more traditional, [[http://www.andon.co.jp/|Andon Ryokan]] looks interesting but it's farther away via the subway. For something a tad more eccentric, try [[http://www.timeout.jp/en/tokyo/feature/6424/Love-hotel-luxury-in-Kawasaki|here]]. ===== Transport to/from Airport ===== Tokyo has two airports at which international flights land. A sprinkling of flights land at Haneda, which is located very close to the city center, but most flights land at Narita, an hour outside of Tokyo. For flights arriving at Narita, the [[http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/nex/index.html|Narita Express]] train connects to the Yamanote line, the central ring line. Transfer at Shinagawa to the Yamanote Line, then switch to the Hibiya Line at [[http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/stations/e290.html|Ebisu]] to get to Roppongi. For flights arriving at Haneda, take the 50-year old [[http://www.tokyo-monorail.co.jp/english/|Haneda Monorail]] line to Hammamatsu-cho and transfer to the Yamanote Line heading to Shinagawa, then switch to the Hibiya Line at Ebisu. Since the Yamanote Line is a ring line, if you fall asleep and miss Ebisu you can continue your nap and get off the next time the train makes it way around to Ebisu. Or you can get off in Akihabara and experience the [[http://travel.cnn.com/tokyo/drink/tokyos-best-maid-cafes-798315|interesting cultural attractions]]. **Transit cards:** For getting to/from an airport and getting around town, using an IC transit card can make things really easy. These are stored value cards sold under the name SUICA (JR) or PASMO (Tokyo Metro) and are effectively the same. One adds value to the card and the transit fare is automatically deducted when exiting any JR train, private rail, subway or bus within the Tokyo area. When arriving at Narita, the [[http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/nex/suica_nex.html|Suica and Narita Express package]] is a good deal. **Limo Bus**: A Limo bus will take you from Narita Terminal 1 or 2 directly to the Grand Hyatt in Roppongi, just across the street from the building where Google is located, and a short distance from the b Roppongi and other hotels. One way ticket is 3000¥, available at the Airport Limousine counter in both terminals. The Bus Stops are #11 at Terminal 1 and #6 at Terminal 2. See [[http://www.limousinebus.co.jp/en/platform_searches/index/2/59|Narita to Grand Hyatt Tokyo]] for details. ===== Participants ===== Sorted by family name: ^ Name ^ Representing ^ Arrive ^ Leave ^ Hotel ^ Flight Info ^ Notes ^ | Adams, Glenn | CoxCom | June 3 | June 9 | B Roppongi | UA875/838 | also TTWF | | Atanassov, Rossen | Microsoft | June 2 | June 12 | TBD | TBD | | | Atkins, Tab | Google | | | | | | | Baron, L. David | Mozilla | June 1 | June 12 | [[http://www.theb-hotels.com/the-b-roppongi/en/|b roppongi]] | ANA1186/ANA8 | arriving from Taipei; also TTWF, AC | | Bos, Bert | W3C | June 3 | June 9 | B Roppongi | | also workshop & dev meet-up | | Cabanier, Rik | Adobe | June 2 | June 10 | Hyatt Regency | | Observing, approved by Peter | | Daggett, John | Mozilla | | | local | | | | Erenkrantz, Justin | Bloomberg | June 4 | June 12 | Imperial Hotel Tokyo | ANA 1009/ANA10 | also TTWF, AC | | fantasai | Mozilla | June 4 | June 19 | [[http://www.sawanoya.com/eigo.html|Sawanoya Ryokan]] | UA79/UA852 | | | Glazman, Daniel | Disruptive Innovations | June 4 | June 12 | [[http://www.celestinehotel.com/en/index.html|Celestine Hotel]] | JL42/JL41 | also eBooks WS and AC meeting | | Hauck, Rebecca | Adobe | June 4 | June 10 | Hyatt Regency | | | | Ishida, Richard | W3C | | | | | also eBooks WS | | Ishii, Koji | Rakuten | | | local | | | | Jackson, Dean | Apple | June 4 | June 9 | Conrad Tokyo | | | | Le Hegaret, Philippe | W3C | June 3 | June 12 | TBD | UA803/UA804 | also eBooks WS, TTWF, and AC meeting | | Linss, Peter | HP | June 2 | June 12 | b Roppongi | LH710/ UA838 | also eBooks WS, TTWF, and AC meeting | | McCormack, Cameron | Mozilla | June 2 | June 6 | Grand Hyatt Roppongi | | Observing, approved by Peter | | Mclister, Larry | Adobe | June 4 | June 10 | Hyatt Regency | | Observing, approved by Peter and Tab | | Noto Garcia, Israel | Adobe | June 4 | June 10 | Hyatt Regency | | Observing, approved by Peter and Tab | | Quin, Liam | W3C | June 2 | June 12 | Shinagawa Prince Hotel | AC1 355pm; AC 2 / 550pm | Also eBook WS and AC meeting | | Sapin, Simon | Mozilla | June 1 | June 9 | Hotel Okura | JAL802/AC422 | arriving from Taipei, also TTWF | | Schulze, Dirk | Adobe | June 1 | June 9 | Hyatt Regency | | | | Stearns, Alan | Adobe | May 30 | June 9 | Roppongi Hills apartment | | | | Storset, Leif Arne | Opera | June 4 | June 9 | B Roppongi | SK 983/984 | also TTWF | | Villegas, Jet | Mozilla | | | | | | | Yamamoto, Kazutaka | NTT | June 5 | June 7 | local | | | Regrets: Steve Zilles, Lea Verou, Tantek Çelik ===== Agenda ===== === Wed === == AM == * Joint SVG/CSS Topics == PM == * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-counter-styles-3/|Counter Styles LC/CR?]] * CSS3 Cascade, close out following things: * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Mar/0297.html|Animations/Transitions cascading order]] * Is 'default' keyword acceptably specified? * Is scoped rules ordering acceptably specified? * If all three things are done, publish LC, possibly with extended comment period * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-conditional/doc-20130404-CR.html|Conditional Rules open issues]] * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-variables/|Variables CR]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013May/0664.html|how do the close-constructs-at-EOF rules interact with the values of variables]] (both when the contstructs are tokens and when they're parsing matching of parentheses, brackets, or braces) (from May 29 telecon) * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013May/0519.html|Negative definition of the syntax of Custom Properties declarations]] === Thurs === == AM == * Planning and resource allocation. We're 4 months from the end of the [[http://www.w3.org/2010/09/CSSWG/charter|charter]] period. Do we need to allocate more resources to the deliverables? How long an extension do we need to ask for to finish most of them? (3 RECs: [[http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-background|css3-background,]] [[http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ui|css3-ui]] and [[http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values|css3-values;]] and several test suites) * Syntax Level 3 == PM == * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-fonts/|CSS3 Fonts]] * font-style and Japanese obliquing in vertical text (Taro Yamamoto from Adobe to attend) * text-decoration and subscript/superscript glyphs * OM representation of @font-feature-values rule * resolve other issues before LC * Syntax Level 3 (cont'd) * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Mar/0414.html|Event handling in Regions]] * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-shapes/|CSS3 Shapes]] Solve open issues, prep first LC? * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-exclusions/|CSS3 Exclusions]] Solve open issues, prep first LC? === Fri === == AM == * Planning 2014 F2F meetings * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-grid/|Grid Layout (Lots of Issues, see draft)]] == PM == * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-font-load-events/|Font Load Events]] use futures? FPWD? * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-text-decor/|Text Decoration CR]] * principles for when to backport level 3 module changes (eg. Syntax) back to CSS 2.1 and css-style-attr (from May 29 telecon) * Pseudo-stacking contexts and tables ([[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Apr/thread.html#msg145|April]], [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013May/thread.html#msg27|May]]), also can we [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Apr/0050.html|name the darn thing and make a diagram]]? * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jun/0010.html|Require whitespace around Media Queries operators]], like in @supports * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013May/0652.html|CSS escapes (or lack of them) in attribute values with attr(foo string) and attr(foo url).]] Should be quick. * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-align/|Alignment]] Detailed review of spec with whiteboarding, to make sure we all understand what it's doing and like that. * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-transitions/#reversing|reversing interrupted transitions]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013May/0668.html|principles behind outline properties]] * [[ideas:naming]] === Proposed Topics === == Suggested as Lower Priority == * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-text-3/|CSS3 Text]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jun/0057.html|letter-spacing and text-justify: distribute]] * [[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jun/0058.html|definition of expansion opportunity]] * solve open issues, prep first LC? * [[http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/|Selectors 4]] Collect any remaining issues, prepare for LC. * Can some features be moved from the complete profile to the fast profile? (ie. enabled in stylesheets) * Digital Publishing: (Wed PM) * I [Bert] can present my slides from the workshop, which have a list of requirements for CSS * Discuss the workshop, because it will probably have turned up even more requirements... * CSS4 Color