===== Seattle F2F Jan 11-13 2017 ===== * Host: Microsoft * Location: South Lake Union Discovery Center * Address: [[https://www.google.com/maps/place/South+Lake+Union+Discovery+Center/@47.6189366,-122.3410077,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x54901549dc6fcfd1:0xe262adf9ad1e02f2!8m2!3d47.618933!4d-122.338819?hl=en | 101 Westlake Avenue North, Seattle, WA 98109, US]] * Dates: Wednesday–Friday, Jan 11-13 2017 * Times: 08:30 doors open, 09:00 meeting start, 18:00 meeting end (each day) * Weather: [[http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?smap=1&lat=47.621&lon=-122.338&unit=1&mp=1|⁰C]], [[http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?smap=1&lat=47.621&lon=-122.338&unit=0&mp=1|⁰F]] * Transit: From the airport you can take [[http://www.soundtransit.org/Schedules/Link-light-rail|Link rail]] to downtown, with Westlake being the stop closest to the venue ==== Minutes ==== * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0048.html|2017-01-11 Part I: FX Breakout - Transforms, Whitespace in a custom property in a variable reference, Geometry Interfaces]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0049.html|2017-01-11 Part II: Text Breakout - Hyphenation, Text Decoration]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0050.html|2017-01-11 Part III: Text Breakout - Inline Layout & Initial Letter]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0051.html|2017-01-11 Part IV: CSS Color]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0052.html|2017-01-11 Part V: Backgrounds]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0053.html|2017-01-11 Part VI: Writings Modes, CSS Tables, Values & Units 4]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0054.html|2017-01-12 Part I: FX Breakout - Transforms [css-transforms]]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0055.html|2017-01-12 Part II: Text Breakout - Text Decoration, Step-Sizing/Rhythm [css-text-decoration] [css-rhythm]]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0056.html|2017-01-12 Part III: Text Breakout - Line Grid, Block Step Sizing [css-line-grid] [css-rhythm]]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0057.html|2017-01-12 Part IV: Font color palettes, Font rendering controls, Font loading, Tokyo F2F [css-fonts]]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0058.html|2017-01-12 Part V: CSS2.1, What can go to CR this quarter?, WPT, CSS UI 3 [CSS21] [CSS-UI-3]]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0061.html|2017-01-13 Part I: Grid [css-grid]]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0059.html|2017-01-13 Part II: Scrolling, Sizing [css-overflow] [css-sizing]]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0062.html|2017-01-13 Part III: Fetch and CSS Interactions, EXI for CSS, Display Module [css-inline]]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Feb/0060.html|2017-01-13 Part IV: Logical Properties, in content, SVG Integration, CSS 2.1, Snapshot [css-logical-props] [css-content] [CSS21] [CSS-2017]]] ==== Adjacent meetings ==== * 2017-01-10 [[https://github.com/w3c/css-houdini-drafts/wiki/Seattle-F2F-Jan-10-2017| Houdini in Seattle]] * 2017-01-13 6:25am [[https://www.facebook.com/NovemberProjectSeattle/| November Project Seattle]] (outdoors exercise/workout) at [[http://j.mp/SouthLakeUnion| Lake Union Park]] ==== Group Dinner ==== Jan 12, 2017, 7:00pm at [[http://tanakasanseattle.com | Tanakasan]] ==== Place ==== * South Lake Union Discovery Center - 101 Westlake Avenue North, Seattle, WA, 98109, United States ==== Participants ==== Please, put your name in this table if you plan to participate (alphabetical order): ^ Name ^ Arrival ^ Departure ^ Hotel ^ Flight info and notes ^ | Alan Stearns | n/a | n/a | home | n/a | | Andrey Rybka | 10 Jan | 13 Jan| Hyatt Place Downtown | UA 1792 / 5355 | | Bert Bos | 9 Jan 11:25 | 14 Jan 12:58 | Hyatt Place Seattle Downtown | DL143 / AF3653 | | Brad Werth | TBD | TBD | TBD | observer from Mozilla | | Dave Cramer | 10 Jan | 15 Jan | Hyatt | UA1641 / UA419 | | fantasai | 7 Jan | 13 Jan | AirBnB | AS via EWR | | Florian Rivoal | 10 Jan | 14 Jan | Airbnb | KE728+KE019 / KE020+KE271 | | Francois Remy | n/a | n/a | home | n/a | | Geoffrey Sneddon | 7 Jan | 14 Jan | Hyatt Place Seattle Downtown | FI431+FI681 / FI680+FI430 | | Greg Whitworth | n/a | n/a | home | n/a | | Hiroshi Sakakibara| 9 Jan 10:20 | 14 Jan 12:20 | Hyatt Place Seattle Downtown | NH0178 / NH0177 | | Ian Kilpatrick | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | | Jack Moffitt | TBD | Jan 12 | TBD | observer from Mozilla / Servo | | Jen Simmons | 9 Jan | 15 Jan | TBD | Delta | | Jet Villegas | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | | L. David Baron | 9 Jan 20:48 | 13 Jan 20:45 | TBD | UA1688 / AS300 | | Melanie Richards | n/a | n/a | home | n/a | | Myles C. Maxfield | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | | Peter Linss | 9 Jan 18:01 | 14 Jan 12:01 | AirBnB | UA5475 / UA5618 | | Rachel Andrew | 9 Jan | 15 Jan | TBD | out BA193 and BA2410, back BA48 | | Rachel Nabors | n/a | n/a | home | n/a | | Rossen Atanassov | n/a | n/a | home | n/a | | Shane Stephens | TBD | TBD | TBD | TBD | | Simon Fraser | 9 Jan | 13 Jan | Hotel Andra | Alaska 393 / Alaska 336 | | Simon Pieters | 9 Jan | 13 Jan | La Quinta Inn & Suites Seattle Downtown | FI 307 + FI 681 / FI 680 + FI 306 | | Steve Zilles | 10 Jan | 13 Jan | TBD | TBD | | Tab Atkins | tbd | tbd | Airbnb | tbd | | Tantek Çelik | 2017-01-10 | 2017-01-14 | La Quinta Inn & Suites Seattle Downtown | UA 5727 / UA 294 | Regrets: glazou, Jihye Hong, Brian Birtles ==== Topics ==== GitHub issues from [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/labels/Agenda%2B%20F2F|Agenda ftf Label]] should be incorporated below === Wednesday === == Morning Track FX == * [[http://drafts.csswg.org/css-transforms-1/issues-wd-2013|Transforms Level 1: All Open Issues]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/856|[css-transforms] Individual transform "scale" has interop issue]] * [[https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/document/d/1EtJuLsDpcJPQYGG18226FrQ-0vnonY_zHCxoNb_sVdE/edit?usp=drivesdk|Making transform-style actually work]] * CSS Variables * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/881|Whitespaces in serialization of custom property value]] (jet) * Geometry Interfaces (smfr) == Morning Track Text == * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/869|[css-text] Should 'hyphens: auto' work if lang="" is not declared?]] * [[https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-decor-3/issues-cr-2013|CSS Text Decoration L3: All Open Issues]] * Level 4? * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/843|[css-text-decor] selective toggling in the text-decoration-skip property]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/459|[css-text-decor] Text underlines' positions cannot be fine-tuned]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/239|[css-text-decor] No way to set the underline width/thickness]] * CSS Inline open issues (dauwhe) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/743|initial-letter in-flow or out-of-flow (preferred)?]] (jet) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/719|how to make block with initial letter taller]] (dauwhe) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/688| initial-letter and float on same element ]] (dauwhe) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/360| relationship of initial-letter and float ]] (dauwhe) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/689| initial-letter line shortened when floats present ]] (dauwhe) == Afternoon == * 10 min per breakout summary * css-color: * What happens to rgb() etc with Working Color Spaces? a.k.a how are Working spaces working? https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/481 * Colorspaces and blending - when we can dictate working color space, what are impl plans to actually support blending in those spaces? (tab) * Computed and used values for values: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/pull/871 (Florian) * Interpolating between color spaces https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/883 * Animating to/from currentColor https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/873 (Florian) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/294|Specification for DCI P3]] * '''' * either adding to specs or removing from implementations [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/116|background-repeat-x/y]] and [[https://github.com/w3c/fxtf-drafts/issues/99|mask-repeat-x/y]] (dbaron) * should we introduce a variant of '''' without 3-value syntax for ''tranform-origin'' etc.? * CSS Writing Modes PR (koji) * Publish new Working Draft of css-tables? (fremy) * [[https://drafts.csswg.org/css-values-4/#changes|CSS Values and Units L4]] * Any other units people interested in adding? * Publish FPWD? === Thursday === == Morning Track FX == * More Transforms issues? == Morning Track Text == * More text decoration issues? * CSS Step Sizing (koji/fantasai) * FPWD? * Block height stepping idea. * Line Grid: Propose a simplification to line-grid lvl 1 https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/880 (Florian) == Afternoon == * Fonts * Font Color Palettes (myles) * moving [[https://tabatkins.github.io/specs/css-font-display/|css-font-display]] into the WG (dbaron) * Meeting scheduling * Next F2F announcement (skk) * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Dec/0061.html|summer meeting]] location/dates? * Can we attempt 1 year-ish advance meeting planning (at least country/city and week) -t * CSS2 maintenance process (continuing from 2017-01-04 telcon discussion of proposal https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Dec/0015.html) -t * What can we take to CR in Q1 (and 2017 in total)? (continuing from CRs in 2016 discussion from TPAC) -t * csswg-test/web-platform-tests merge * Get an actual resolution to do the merge this month! * CSS-UI: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Jan/0019.html (Florian) === Friday === * Grid * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/283|Implied Minimum Size of Grid Items]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/509|Percentages and intrinsic size]] * Scrolling * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/92|overflow: Consider reserving space for scrollbars with some property ]](added on 21 Dec Telecon) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/769|New feature - scroll-boundary-behavior (an extension of -ms-scroll-chaining)]](added on 21 Dec Telecon) * Sizing * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/509|Intrinsic Sizes inside Percentage Containers]] * CSS Sizing Level 3: remaining issues + CR? * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/794|[css-sizing] Intrinsic size of replaced elements incorrect]] * CSS Display L3 * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Aug/0332.html|Is root out-of-flow?]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Jul/0372.html|flow vs flow-root for table-cell/table-caption]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/540|display: contents vs replaced elements]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/674|display: contents vs counter scopes]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/610|display values for and
]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/650|run-in vs ::first-letter]] * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Aug/0257.html|run-ins & interleaved abspos]] * Cut for [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Dec/0115.html|immediate release]]? Proposed to defer `display-or-not`, release with `run-in` at-risk. * CSS Generated and Replaced Content * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/308|content: insufficiently defined]] (dbaron) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/821|content: insufficiently defined]] (dbaron) * [[https://www.w3.org/blog/2016/11/efficient-representation-for-web-formats/|EXI4CSS]] - our feedback to the EXI WG * [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Sep/0103.html|CSS Fetch integration]] (dbaron) * Logical Properties * getComputedStyle and logical properties https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/384 (dbaron) === Unslotted ===