CSS Speech Module Level 3

Last Call Working Draft, Disposition of Comments

Closure states: an issue can be closed as Accepted, OutOfScope, Invalid, Rejected, or Retracted.

Color nomenclature: (Verified indicates commentor's acceptance of the response):

Color Description
ISSUE X Accepted or Rejected [Verified]
ISSUE X Rejected [not Verified]
ISSUE X OutOfScope or Invalid [not Verified]
ISSUE X Formal Objection

ISSUE 1

Summary
ISSUE 1: interaction between the 'voice-volume' property and the loudness of 'cue' properties
Status
CLOSED [Accepted]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: clarify multiple informative statements that misleadingly firmly associate SSML features with CSS-Speech properties + correct editorial glitch which results in a whole paragraph being normative rather than informative + improve (shorten) the said informative paragraph (as per the email proposal). (Note, WG was waiting for commenter's reply, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0719.html or http://logs.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-11-23 )
Raised By
Paul Bagshaw paul.bagshaw@orange-ftgroup.com (Co-author of SSML 1.1 and PLS 1.0)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Aug/0494.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0189.html
Comment 2
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0503.html
Response 2
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0507.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0526.html (heads-up #1)
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0554.html (heads-up #2)
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0805.html (heads-up #3 with summarised proposal)
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Dec/0081.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified)

Issue 2

Summary
ISSUE 2: 'languages' attribute needed for voice selection with the 'voice-family' property
Status
CLOSED [Rejected] (deferred)
Resolution
Working Group consensus: defer to later revision due to technical considerations in Level 3 (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0482.html or http://logs.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-12 )
Raised By
Paul Bagshaw paul.bagshaw@orange-ftgroup.com (Co-author of SSML 1.1 and PLS 1.0)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Aug/0495.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0107.html
Comment 2
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0502.html
Response 2
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0505.html
Comment 3
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0510.html
Response 3
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0512.html
Comment 4
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0513.html
Response 4
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0515.html
Comment 5
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0516.html
Response 5
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0517.html
Comment 6
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0519.html
Response 6
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0520.html
Response 7
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0518.html
Response 8
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0510.html
Comment 7
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0511.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified)
Remarks
voice-language solution, similar to http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-fonts/#font-language-override-prop, as illustrated by Fantasai: voice-language: auto | <language-code> | inherit; inherited: yes; computed value: as specified; with auto ⇒ The used value is taken from the language of the selected element, or some UA-chosen value if unknown. The computed value is the keyword 'auto'.

Issue 3

Summary
ISSUE 3: Renaming the 'voice-volume' property to 'volume-voice'
Status
CLOSED [Rejected]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: do not rename property, to preserve consistency (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
Christoph Päper christoph.paeper@crissov.de
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Aug/0552.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0109.html (proposal: reject renaming)
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0525.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0606.html (notification of Working Group consensus / resolution)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0499.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified)

Issue 4

Summary
ISSUE 4: Not dropping the "at-risk" voice-* properties
Status
CLOSED [Invalid]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: “at-risk” is just an indication of risk, not the intent to drop the feature (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
Gregory Rosmaita gregory.rosmaita@gmail.com
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0010.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0019.html
REMARK
commenter is not available to confirm, but the WG resolution is aligned with the commenter's position, so the issue can safely be marked Verified.

Issue 5

Summary
ISSUE 5: 'voice-rate' percentages
Status
CLOSED [Accepted]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: make a minor editorial improvement using the terms “slower” and “faster” to clarify the use of percentages, and to fix the typo “multiplied by 1.2” versus “one and a half times the speaking rate”. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
Gregory Rosmaita gregory.rosmaita@gmail.com
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0011.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0411.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0608.html (notification of Working Group consensus / resolution)
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0617.html (proposed prose update)
REMARK
commenter is not available to confirm, but the WG resolution is aligned with the commenter's position, so the issue can safely be marked Verified.

Issue 6

Summary
ISSUE 6: 'play-during' or equivalent property
Status
CLOSED [Rejected] (deferred)
Resolution
Working Group consensus: reject 'play-during' feature request, possibly deferred to next major revision (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
Gregory Rosmaita gregory.rosmaita@gmail.com
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0012.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0423.html (agree with design decision to exclude 'play-during', reject need to re-introduce it)
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0609.html (notification of Working Group consensus / resolution)
REMARK
commenter is not available to confirm, but the WG resolution is aligned with a well-established design decision since the very early days (pre-2004 Working Draft) of the CSS Speech Module Level 3, so we think that the issue can be confidently marked Verified.

Issue 7

Summary
ISSUE 7: use of generic SPAN element in voice-stress example and client-side use question
Status
CLOSED [Accepted]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: make a minor editorial improvement so that the example uses 'em' instead of 'span'. However, the HTML default user-agent stylesheet remains out-of-scope (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
Gregory Rosmaita gregory.rosmaita@gmail.com
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0013.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0414.html
Remark
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0422.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0610.html (notification of Working Group consensus / resolution)
REMARK
commenter is not available to confirm, but the WG resolution is aligned with the commenter's position, so the issue can safely be marked Verified.

Issue 8

Summary
ISSUE 8: no longdesc for the aural formatting model diagram
Status
CLOSED [Accepted]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: make minor editorial edit to link the diagram to the paragraph above it, using aria:described-by and/or by editing the @alt attribute. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
Gregory Rosmaita gregory.rosmaita@gmail.com
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0015.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0412.html
REMARK
commenter is not available to confirm, but the WG resolution is aligned with the commenter's position, so the issue can safely be marked Verified.

Issue 9

Summary
ISSUE 9: Appendix B — Index: why such cryptic hyperlink text?
Status
CLOSED [Accepted]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: fix the automatically-generated index, which will improve all the CSS specifications. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
Gregory Rosmaita gregory.rosmaita@gmail.com
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0016.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0407.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0611.html (notification of Working Group consensus / resolution)
REMARK
commenter is not available to confirm, but the WG resolution is aligned with the commenter's position, so the issue can safely be marked Verified.

Issue 10

Summary
ISSUE 10: aural/speech events/modifications cued by ARIA properties/attributes
Status
CLOSED [OutOfScope]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: out-of-scope (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
Gregory Rosmaita gregory.rosmaita@gmail.com
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0017.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0415.html (valid remark, but out-of-scope)
REMARK
commenter is not available to confirm, but the WG resolution is not conflictual with regards to the commenter's position, so the issue can safely be marked Verified.

Issue 11

Summary
ISSUE 11: relative 'voice-volume' values (e.g. Louder / Softer)
Status
CLOSED [Rejected]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: reject “louder” and “softer” keywords, but agree to improve informative prose (examples) for decibel offsets (as well as for 'voice-rate' percentages) (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
PF-WG, Janina Sajka janina@rednote.net
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0368.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0528.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0613.html (notification of Working Group consensus / resolution)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0783.html (James Craig jcraig@apple.com is okay with current specification regarding user-configurable values for volume keywords)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0291.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified)

Issue 12

Summary
ISSUE 12: 'voice-volume' property's 'silent' value
Status
CLOSED [Rejected]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: keep the 'silent' value as-is (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
PF-WG, Janina Sajka janina@rednote.net
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0368.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0529.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0614.html (notification of Working Group consensus / resolution)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0784.html (acceptance by James Craig jcraig@apple.com)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0291.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified)

Issue 13

Summary
ISSUE 13: 'speak' and 'speak-as' properties
Status
CLOSED [Rejected]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: keep the two 'speak' properties separated (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
PF-WG, Janina Sajka janina@rednote.net
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0368.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0527.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0615.html (notification of Working Group consensus / resolution)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0782.html (James Craig jcraig@apple.com will file an issue for iOS5 to support the split 'speak' properties)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0291.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified)

Issue 14

Summary
ISSUE 14: 'pause-before' and 'pause-after' properties
Status
CLOSED [Rejected]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: not to add restrictions on time values (good authoring practices are out-of-scope). Media Queries, Media Types / Features are out-of-scope too. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0607.html or http://log.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-10-19 )
Raised By
PF-WG, Janina Sajka janina@rednote.net
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0368.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0537.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0616.html (notification of Working Group consensus / resolution)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0291.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified)

Issue 15

Summary
ISSUE 15: 'cue-before' and 'cue-after' properties (named sound icons, such as "warning", "error", etc.)
Status
CLOSED [Rejected] (deferred)
Resolution
Working Group consensus: new feature to consider for future level/revision. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0719.html or http://logs.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-11-23 )
Raised By
PF-WG, Janina Sajka janina@rednote.net
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0368.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0535.html
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0291.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified)

Issue 16

Summary
ISSUE 16: 'voice-family' property's 'preserve' value
Status
CLOSED [Rejected] (deferred)
Resolution
Working Group consensus: reject dropping of 'preserve' value. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0719.html or http://logs.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-11-23 )
Raised By
PF-WG, Janina Sajka janina@rednote.net
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0368.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0534.html
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0291.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified)

Issue 17

Issue 18

Summary
ISSUE 18: 'voice-stress' property renaming to 'voice-emphasis'
Status
CLOSED [Rejected]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: reject property renaming. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0719.html or http://logs.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-11-23 )
Raised By
PF-WG, Janina Sajka janina@rednote.net
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0368.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0506.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0552.html (Heads-up #1)

Issue 19

Summary
ISSUE 19: Remarks and questions (request for clarifications), not actual issues.
Status
CLOSED [Invalid]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: not actual specification issue. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0719.html or http://logs.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-11-23 )
Raised By
Robert Brown Robert.Brown@microsoft.com (involved with, but not representing the HTML Speech Working Group)
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0523.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0527.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Sep/0538.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0505.html
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0559.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified)
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0084.html (side note about relationship with HTML Speech XG)

Issue 20

Summary
ISSUE 20: Not dropping the "at-risk" 'voice-balance' property
Status
CLOSED [Invalid]
Resolution
Working Group consensus: not actual specification issue. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0719.html or http://logs.csswg.org/irc.w3.org/css/?date=2011-11-23 )
Raised By
PF-WG, Janina Sajka janina@rednote.net and James Craig jcraig@apple.com
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0446.html
Response
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Oct/0504.html
Comment
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Nov/0291.html (commenter's agreement ⇒ Verified) [similar issue to 'voice-duration'property]


Testing, Reference Implementations

Existing Prototypal or Semi-Complete Implementations

(support for “aural” and/or “speech” stylesheets, as per the CSS2.1 appendix and/or the previous CSS3-Speech drafts, respectively)

Note that this topic is tracked on the public CSS emailing list (feel free to contribute there): http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Mar/0389.html

Opera
implements some of CSS3-Speech (and non-deprecated CSS2.1 Aural Stylesheets features): http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/presto25/css/properties/ (the documentation lists speech properties up to Opera engine Presto v2.5, see here: http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/productspecs/ )
EmacSpeak
implements CSS Aural Stylesheets: http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net
FireVox
implements some CSS Speech features (has its own CSS parser, because Firefox doesn't support CSS Speech/Aural features), see http://www.firevox.clcworld.net/demos/css_demo.html and http://clc4tts.clcworld.net/css_technical.html
WebKit
implements support for the “speak” property in its core, and I think that there is platform-level support through the accessibility layer (Mac OS X only ?). See http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/LayoutTests/platform/mac/accessibility/css-speech-speak.html and https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46827 (partially supported by VoiceOver in the iOS5 betas)
FormsPlayer (now “ubiquity-xforms”, included in “backplanebx”)
for Internet Explorer, provides prosody control via CSS properties (voice, volume, rate, pitch). See http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=speak+package:http://ubiquity-xforms-cpp\.googlecode\.com and http://code.google.com/p/backplanebx/source/browse/XFormsProcessor/content/XFormsProcessor/chrome/
Mozilla Gecko
property parsing, see: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525444 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47159
Internet Explorer 9
“does not support any of the CSS3 speech properties”: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc351024(v=vs.85).aspx#speech

Points of Interest

Test Suite

Cross-cutting concerns, collaboration opportunities

Unified / centralized sound mixer

HTML5 default user-agent CSS speech stylesheet

CSS speech authoring guidelines, good practices

 
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