Seoul F2F 2014

Dates: 2014 May 19-21, we start every day at 9am so be in the room before 9am please.

Host: Samsung Electronics, TTA (Telecommunications Technology Association), ETRI (Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute) and the W3C Korean Office

Organizer: Daniel Glazman, Samsung Research America, Open Source Group

See also the Korean Meetup, TTWF and WWW 2014 events at the bottom of this page.

Arrival in Korea

IMPORTANT WARNING: Korean immigration rules require your passport to be valid at least 6 months after return date. Entry in Korea can be refused if you're not meeting this requirement.

Use this link to check if you need a visa. Visiting EU, US and Canada nationals usually don't need a visa for stays under 3 months.

Location

TTA Office, 267-2 Seohyeon-dong, Bundang-gu, Seongnam-city, Gyeonggi-do, 463-824, KOREA

Meeting room: TBD; WiFi connectivity only, no wires.

Dial-in info: TBD

Parking: TBD if needed

Weather Forecast: May 2014 in Seoul

Electricity in Korea: 220 volts 60 Hz. Plug type F. Make sure to bring your adapter if you need one.

Participants

(Alphabetical by full name.)

Name Representing Arrive Leave Hotel Flight Info Notes
Adenilson Cavalcanti Samsung 18-May 24-May Shilla Stay OZ211
Alan Stearns Adobe 18-May 23-May Hotel Gallery
Bruno Abinader Samsung 18-May 24-May Shilla Stay OZ211
Chris Lilley W3C 18-May 23-May Hotel Gallery BA 17 arr 07:30 / BA 18 dep 10:30
Daniel Glazman Samsung 17-may 23-may Hotel Gallery AF264 07:35 / AF267 09:30 Spicy food forbidden
Dael Jackson Invited Expert 18-May 25-May Hotel Gallery BA 17 7:30 / BA 18 10:35 vegetarian
Dave Cramer Hachette 18-May 23-May Hotel Gallery UA79 21:35 / UA892 17:00
Dongwoo Joshua Im Samsung Living in Korea
Edward O'Connor Apple 18 May 24 May Hotel Gallery UA893 / UA892
fantasai Invited Expert 17 May 25 May Hotel Gallery OZ211 / TG 659 flights as yet unconfirmed
Glenn Adams CoxCom 17-May 22-May Hotel Gallery AC63 / AC64
Jet Villegas Mozilla 18-may 22-may Hotel Gallery
Koji Ishii Invited Expert 18-May 22-May ? OZ1035 / OZ1065
L. David Baron Mozilla in advance 22-may Hotel Gallery SQ15 / SQ16 at Hotel Gallery from 18 May
Peter Linss HP 17-may 25-may Hotel Gallery UA 893 15:03 / UA 892 17:00
Philippe Le Hegaret W3C 18-may 22-may Hotel Gallery UA 893 15:03 / CA 126 17:50
Simon Pieters Opera Software 18-may 22-may Hotel Gallery CA 131 14:15 / CA 138 09:25
Shane Stephens Google 18-may 22-may ? AY 0041 08:20 / JL 0945 14:00
Shinyu Murakami Antenna House 18-May 22-May Hotel Gallery JL93 17:55 / JL94 19:15 pescaterian
Sylvain Galineau Adobe 16-may 23-may Hotel Gallery OZ 271 17:50 / OZ 272 18:40
Rossen Atanassov Microsoft 16-may 22-may Hotel Gallery pescaterian
Tab Atkins Google 18-May 22-May Hotel Gallery KE 934 15:10 / KE 23 17:30
Andrey Rybka Bloomberg 17-May 23-May Hotel Gallery Asiana 366/AA280 cannot eat pork
Shinsuke Matsuki ACCESS 19-May 21-May Hotel Gallery

Regrets:

  • Anton Prowse
  • Lea Verou
  • Simon Sapin
  • Liam Quin (maybe by telephone though)
  • Steve Zilles
  • Dirk Schulze

Housing

We have negotiated hotel rooms at reduced price at Hotel Gallery, 150 meters away from the meeting venue.The Hotel Gallery is the only luxury business hotel in Seongnam-City, Seoul’s largest commuting satellite city. It is located in the central downtown of Bundang-gu which is the most thriving area of Seongnam City. The area can be connected in 30 minutes from big cities around Seoul, such as Suwon and Anyang.

We recommend you book your hotel room as soon as possible because we won't be able to keep these rooms for very long. Reservation must be done using this form (docx format). It can be sent by email or fax. Please ping Daniel if you have any issue with the hotel using this form.

Warning: the limousine bus mentioned on the reservation form is for people landing in Seohyeon Domestic Airport. If you arrive from abroad, you'll land in Incheon International Airport or Gimpo International Airport…

Click on the map of the hotel/venue area below to see a larger version of it:

Map of the hotel and venue area

Transport to/from Airport

It takes between 60 to 80 minutes (yes…) from Incheon or Gimpo International Airports to the Hotel Gallery by Airport Limousine Bus. Expect an hour if you take a taxi. VISA cards are accepted just everywhere, you don't have to care about having korean money with you.

  • By Airport Limousine Bus
  • By Taxi
    • Taxi is always available from the Incheon International Airport, whose fare (one way) will be approximately KRW 120,000~140,000 for deluxe taxi and KRW 80,000~100,000 for normal taxi( tall gate fee will be added). Again, all taxis accept VISA for payment.
    • Taxi fare (one way) from the Gimpo International Airport will be approximately KRW 100,000 for deluxe taxi and KRW 60,000~80,000 for normal taxi (tall gate fee will be added).
    • Taxi fares are of course subject to traffic condition…
    • Here is something you can print and show to the taxi driver…
    • Take me to Hotel Gallery please

Travel to/from Hotel/TTA Office

The venue is at walking distance (150 meters) from the hotel. Please see the map above in the Housing section.

Group dinner

  • tuesday night, sponsored by ETRI. To be announced.

Agenda

Monday

AM

  • Flexbox LC → CR
  • CSS Transitions and CSS Animations status
    • More discussion of T/A cascading behavior, weighing impl difficulty against user usefulness
  • CSS Animations: OM issues. More if time permits.
  • Calc
  • Image Values 3
    • Dropping features from image()

PM

Tuesday

AM

  • Footnotes in GCPM [would like to attend remotely - Liam]
  • CSS Scoping
  • CSS Flexbox to PR (last call ended, CR exit criteria met)
  • CSS Object Model

PM

  • CSS Line Layout
    • SVG spec (a REC) defines most properties already. SVG WG would like to reference CSS Line Layout instead. Since there hasn't been progress for two years, how should SVG WG proceed?
    • Specify heuristics for fonts/font systems without enough font metric information.
    • Initial caps [would like to participate remotely - Liam]
  • Box Alignment
    • review next baseline-alignment section
    • publish update
  • Box model / Render tree [Interested in calling in. Bert]
  • '-webkit-line-clamp'
    • cool ability, let's talk about how to do it right and figure out where to spec it (Line Layout?)

Wednesday

AM

  • CSS Masking
  • Geometry Interfaces
    • Should unit-less values (like for SVG transform presentation attribute) be allowed as string input for the constructor too?
    • FPWD
  • Test results script hosted on w3.org for /TR publications
  • Selectors4 to LC

PM

Proposed topics for the meeting

  • CSS Scoping
  • '-webkit-line-clamp'
    • cool ability, let's talk about how to do it right and figure out where to spec it (Line Layout?)
  • MediaQueryListener - decide to switch to events
  • Image Values 3
    • Dropping features from image()
    • Deprecating/dropping image-orientation
    • 2-value image-resolution
  • Counter Styles
    • Review changes
    • Align with decision on custom-ident rules
  • Selectors4 to LC
  • Flexbox LC → CR
  • Values and Units L3
    • custom-ident rules
    • optional ordered combinator
    • publish update
  • Box Alignment
    • review next baseline-alignment section
    • publish update
  • CSS3 Text [Is it possible to phone in? If so, please, late in the afternoon. Bert]
  • Split CSS Text 3
  • CSS Masking
  • Box model / Render tree [Interested in calling in. Bert]
  • September f2f location / dates
  • Geometry Interfaces
    • Should unit-less values (like for SVG transform presentation attribute) be allowed as string input for the constructor too?
    • FPWD
  • CSS Line Layout
    • SVG spec (a REC) defines most properties already. SVG WG would like to reference CSS Line Layout instead. Since there hasn't been progress for two years, how should SVG WG proceed?
    • Specify heuristics for fonts/font systems without enough font metric information.
    • Initial caps [would like to participate remotely - Liam]
  • CSS Transitions and CSS Animations status
    • More discussion of T/A cascading behavior, weighing impl difficulty against user usefulness
  • Footnotes in GCPM [would like to attend remotely - Liam]
  • font load events to LC
  • Test results script hosted on w3.org for /TR publications
  • CSS Animations: OM issues. More if time permits.
  • CSS3 for formatting books
  • CSS Object Model

May-22 Workshop

We will also have a Workshop/Meetup with the Korean industry on the 22nd of May, morning, organized by the Korean Governmental Telecommunications Office. They're interested in discussions with the CSS WG about our future work and the future of the Web. Please add your name below if you plan to attend and/or speak:

Name Can speak? Proposed topic
Alan Stearns if needed
Daniel Glazman yes W3C, the CSS WG and our current work
Dave Cramer if needed print publishing with HTML and CSS
Dongwoo Joshua Im
Philippe Le Hegaret yes W3C, etc.
Shinyu Murakami if needed

TTWF

There will be a Test The Web Forward event in Seoul April 11 and 12. See the details here.

WWW 2014

The 2014 Web Conference will be in Seoul 7-11 Apr. See details here.

 
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