Seoul F2F 2014

Dates: 2014 May 19-21, we start every day at 9am so be in the room before 9am please.

Host: Samsung Electronics, TTA (Telecommunications Technology Association), ETRI (Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute) and the W3C Korean Office

Organizer: Daniel Glazman, Samsung Research America, Open Source Group

See also the Korean Meetup, TTWF and WWW 2014 events at the bottom of this page.

Monday, 19 May:

• Part I, Flexbox
• Part II, Transitions and Animations, calc()
• Part III, Image Values 3
• Part IV, Values and Units
• Part V, Counter Styles, CSS Formatting for Books, Font Load Events, Future F2F Meetings, CSS Syntax - Unpaired Surrogates, MQ Listener

Tuesday, 20 May:

• Part I, Footnotes in GCPM, CSS Scoping
• Part II, Flexbox, CSSOM and CSSOM View
• Part III, CSS Line Layout
• Part IV, Box Alignment, Box Model/Render Tree, -webkit-line-clamp

Wednesday, 21 May:

• Part I, CSS Masking, Geometry Interfaces, Test Results Script, Selectors 4
• Part II, text-overflow: fade, Logical Properties, background-position -x/-y
• Part III, CSS3 Text
• Part IV, web-platform-tests and csswg-test github, annotate url() with “crossorigin” “integrty” etc.
• Part V, Grid/Subgrid, position: sticky, Acknowledgements

IMPORTANT WARNING: Korean immigration rules require your passport to be valid at least 6 months after return date. Entry in Korea can be refused if you're not meeting this requirement.

Use this link to check if you need a visa. Visiting EU, US and Canada nationals usually don't need a visa for stays under 3 months.

TTA Office, 267-2 Seohyeon-dong, Bundang-gu, Seongnam-city, Gyeonggi-do, 463-824, KOREA

Meeting room: TBD; WiFi connectivity only, no wires.

Dial-in info: TBD

Parking: TBD if needed

Weather Forecast: May 2014 in Seoul

Electricity in Korea: 220 volts 60 Hz. Plug type F. Make sure to bring your adapter if you need one.

(Alphabetical by full name.)

Regrets:

• Anton Prowse
• Lea Verou
• Simon Sapin
• Liam Quin (maybe by telephone though)
• Steve Zilles
• Dirk Schulze

We have negotiated hotel rooms at reduced price at Hotel Gallery, 150 meters away from the meeting venue.The Hotel Gallery is the only luxury business hotel in Seongnam-City, Seoul’s largest commuting satellite city. It is located in the central downtown of Bundang-gu which is the most thriving area of Seongnam City. The area can be connected in 30 minutes from big cities around Seoul, such as Suwon and Anyang.

We recommend you book your hotel room as soon as possible because we won't be able to keep these rooms for very long. Reservation must be done using this form (docx format). It can be sent by email or fax. Please ping Daniel if you have any issue with the hotel using this form.

Warning: the limousine bus mentioned on the reservation form is for people landing in Seohyeon Domestic Airport. If you arrive from abroad, you'll land in Incheon International Airport or Gimpo International Airport…

• The Hotel Gallery
  • 272-2 Seohyeon-dong, Bundang-gu, Seongnam-City, Gyeonggi-do, Korea
  • Phone: +82-31-702-8200
  • Fax: +82-31-707-6776
  • Standard room, breakfast included (double bed, wired high speed internet and VAT): KRW 162,800 per night (at today's rate that's roughly $151 or 112€)
  • Same without breakfast: KRW 143,000 ($133 or 98€)

Click on the map of the hotel/venue area below to see a larger version of it:

It takes between 60 to 80 minutes (yes…) from Incheon or Gimpo International Airports to the Hotel Gallery by Airport Limousine Bus. Expect an hour if you take a taxi. VISA cards are accepted just everywhere, you don't have to care about having korean money with you.

• By Airport Limousine Bus
  • At Incheon International Airport Gate 8A (1st floor) Bus Stop Station, Limousine bus No.5300 and 5400 runs to Seohyeon Bus Station, the first stop, every 20/30 minutes from 05:20 to 22:40. It costs KRW 12,000 one way.
    • Detailed information on Limousine bus No. 5300
    • Detailed information on Limousine bus No. 5400
    • Incheon Airport map with exit for Airport Limo Buses:
  • At Gimpo International Airport Gate 1 Bus Stop Station, Limousine bus No. 5100 and 5200 runs to Seohyeon Station, the first stop, every 30 minutes from 06:00 to 22:00. It costs KRW 6000.
    • Detailed information on Limousine bus No. 5100
    • Detailed information on Limousine bus No. 5200
    • Gimpo Airport map with exit for Airport Limo Buses:
• By Taxi
  • Taxi is always available from the Incheon International Airport, whose fare (one way) will be approximately KRW 120,000~140,000 for deluxe taxi and KRW 80,000~100,000 for normal taxi( tall gate fee will be added). Again, all taxis accept VISA for payment.
  • Taxi fare (one way) from the Gimpo International Airport will be approximately KRW 100,000 for deluxe taxi and KRW 60,000~80,000 for normal taxi (tall gate fee will be added).
  • Taxi fares are of course subject to traffic condition…
  • Here is something you can print and show to the taxi driver…
  • 

The venue is at walking distance (150 meters) from the hotel. Please see the map above in the Housing section.

• tuesday night, sponsored by ETRI. To be announced.

• Flexbox LC → CR
• CSS Transitions and CSS Animations status
  • More discussion of T/A cascading behavior, weighing impl difficulty against user usefulness
• CSS Animations: OM issues. More if time permits.
• Calc
• Image Values 3
  • Dropping features from image()

• Image Values 3 (cont'd)
  • Deprecating/dropping image-orientation
  • 2-value image-resolution
• Values and Units L3
  • custom-ident rules
  • optional ordered combinator
  • publish update
• Counter Styles
  • Review changes
    • Allow reading out counter styles, somehow
    • How to do padding between counter and list item
    • Which applies first - pad or negative?
  • Align with decision on custom-ident rules
• CSS3 for formatting books
• font load events to LC
• September f2f location / dates
• CSS Syntax - unpaired surrogates
• MediaQueryListener - decide to switch to events

• Footnotes in GCPM [would like to attend remotely - Liam]
• CSS Scoping
• CSS Flexbox to PR (last call ended, CR exit criteria met)
• CSS Object Model

• CSS Line Layout
  • SVG spec (a REC) defines most properties already. SVG WG would like to reference CSS Line Layout instead. Since there hasn't been progress for two years, how should SVG WG proceed?
  • Specify heuristics for fonts/font systems without enough font metric information.
  • Initial caps [would like to participate remotely - Liam]
• Box Alignment
  • review next baseline-alignment section
  • publish update
• Box model / Render tree [Interested in calling in. Bert]
• '-webkit-line-clamp'
  • cool ability, let's talk about how to do it right and figure out where to spec it (Line Layout?)

• CSS Masking
• Geometry Interfaces
  • Should unit-less values (like for SVG transform presentation attribute) be allowed as string input for the constructor too?
  • FPWD
• Test results script hosted on w3.org for /TR publications
• Selectors4 to LC

• CSS3 Text [Is it possible to phone in? If so, please, late in the afternoon. Bert]
  • text-align shorthanding
  • grapheme cluster terminology
  • Defining 'text-justify: auto' [can phone in for this? - Liam]
  • Arabic letters connecting between elements with display: inline
  • Control characters
• Split CSS Text 3
• web-platform-tests and csswg-test github repositories
• Ability to annotate url() with “crossorigin”, “integrity”, etc for @import, background-image etc.
  • crossorigin thread
  • Integrity spec
• subgrid
• position: sticky
• CSS conditions

• CSS Scoping
• '-webkit-line-clamp'
  • cool ability, let's talk about how to do it right and figure out where to spec it (Line Layout?)
• MediaQueryListener - decide to switch to events
• Image Values 3
  • Dropping features from image()
  • Deprecating/dropping image-orientation
  • 2-value image-resolution
• Counter Styles
  • Review changes
  • Align with decision on custom-ident rules
• Selectors4 to LC
• Flexbox LC → CR
• Values and Units L3
  • custom-ident rules
  • optional ordered combinator
  • publish update
• Box Alignment
  • review next baseline-alignment section
  • publish update
• CSS3 Text [Is it possible to phone in? If so, please, late in the afternoon. Bert]
  • text-align shorthanding
  • grapheme cluster terminology
  • Defining 'text-justify: auto' [can phone in for this? - Liam]
  • Arabic letters connecting between elements with display: inline
  • Control characters
• Split CSS Text 3
• CSS Masking
• Box model / Render tree [Interested in calling in. Bert]
• September f2f location / dates
• Geometry Interfaces
  • Should unit-less values (like for SVG transform presentation attribute) be allowed as string input for the constructor too?
  • FPWD
• CSS Line Layout
  • SVG spec (a REC) defines most properties already. SVG WG would like to reference CSS Line Layout instead. Since there hasn't been progress for two years, how should SVG WG proceed?
  • Specify heuristics for fonts/font systems without enough font metric information.
  • Initial caps [would like to participate remotely - Liam]
• CSS Transitions and CSS Animations status
  • More discussion of T/A cascading behavior, weighing impl difficulty against user usefulness
• Footnotes in GCPM [would like to attend remotely - Liam]
• font load events to LC
• Test results script hosted on w3.org for /TR publications
• CSS Animations: OM issues. More if time permits.
• CSS3 for formatting books
• CSS Object Model

We will also have a Workshop/Meetup with the Korean industry on the 22nd of May, morning, organized by the Korean Governmental Telecommunications Office. They're interested in discussions with the CSS WG about our future work and the future of the Web. Please add your name below if you plan to attend and/or speak:

There will be a Test The Web Forward event in Seoul April 11 and 12. See the details here.

The 2014 Web Conference will be in Seoul 7-11 Apr. See details here.