====== Paris F2F August 2017 ====== * Host: Mozilla * Dinner: Thursday 7PM * [[http://www.restaurant-aupetitriche.com/en|Au Petit Riche]], 25 rue Le peletier 75009 Paris * [[http://www.restaurant-aupetitriche.com/en/the-menu/menus/#contenttop|Menu]] * Dates: Wednesday-Friday, August 2-4, 2017 * with a [[https://github.com/w3c/css-houdini-drafts/wiki/Paris-F2F-August-1st-2017|Houdini task force meeting]] at the same location on Tuesday, August 1, 2017 ==== Meeting Minutes ==== * Wednesday, Aug 2 [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Aug/0034.html|Part I]], [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Aug/0035.html|Part II]], [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Aug/0036.html|Part III]], [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Aug/0037.html|Part IV]] * Thursday, Aug 3 [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Aug/0031.html|Part I]], [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Aug/0040.html|Part II]], [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Aug/0041.html|Part III]], [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Aug/0042.html|Part IV]] * Friday, Aug 4 [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0000.html|Part I]], [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0001.html|Part II]], [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0002.html|Part III]], [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0003.html|Part IV]] ==== Location ==== [[https://wiki.mozilla.org/Paris|Mozilla Paris]], 16bis Boulevard Montmartre, 75009 Paris, France See [[https://wiki.mozilla.org/Paris|Mozilla Paris wiki]] for important directions on finding and entering the space ==== Participants ==== ^ Name ^ Arrival ^ Departure ^ Hotel ^ Flight info and notes ^ | Alan Stearns | 28 July | 5 Aug | AirBnB | | | Benjamin De Cock | 2 Aug | 5 Aug | Millennium Opera Hotel | Thalys | | Bert | 31 Jul | 4 Aug | Hôtel Joséphine | Train (Gare de Lyon) | | Brian Birtles | 30 July | 2 Aug | Hôtel Saint-Marc | JL415/416 | | Daniel Glazman | N/A | N/A | home | N/A | | Dave Cramer| 1 Aug | 5 Aug| | | | Dean Jackson| 1 Aug | 4 Aug| | Walking, Swimming, Crawling | | Emil A Eklund| 1 Aug | 5 Aug | W Opera | TBD | | Eric Willigers | | | | | | fantasai | 31 July | 6 Aug | AirBnB | | | Florian Rivoal| | | AirBnB | Train | | Francois Remy | 31 July | 4 Aug | AirBnB | DL34 | Geoffrey Sneddon | 31 Jul | 5 Aug | Mercure Paris Opera Louvre | (Probably some Eurostar) | | Greg Whitworth | | | | | Ian Kilpatrick | Lundi | Samedi | ??? | Stallion | | Jack Moffitt | | Jen Simmons | 31 July | 5 Aug | AirBnb | BA304 (from London) / BA 8003 | | Jet Villegas | 28 July | 5 Aug | AirBnb | TBD | | Koji Ishii| 31 July | 5 Aug | TBD | TBD | | L. David Baron | 28 July | 5 Aug | Hôtel Acadia - Astotel | Eurostar 9032 / UA 984 | | Melanie Richards | 28 July | 5 Aug | Hotel Athenee | AF3653 / AF3622 | | Myles C. Maxfield | | | Eiffel Tower | Submarine | | Naina Raisinghani | | | | | | Peter Linss| 31 July | 5 Aug | AirBnB | Eurostar | | Rachel Andrew| 30 July | 5 Aug | | BA315/BA314 | | Rob Flack| 31 July | 8 Aug | Hôtel Flor Rivoli | AC880/AC881 | | Rossen Atanassov| 1 Aug | 5 Aug | hotel | uber | | Simon Sapin | | | home | | Surma | 31 Jul | 5 Aug | Millennium Opera Hotel | BA336/BA335 | | Tab Atkins | 30 Jul | 5 Aug | AirBnB | FI548/FI549 | | Tantek Çelik | 2017-08-01 | 2017-08-10 | AirBnB | UA990/UA984 | | Till Schneidereit | **(alphabetical by given name)** ** Regrets ** * Chris Lilley (no travel funding) * Lea Verou (speaking in Australia) * Dael Jackson * Hiroshi Sakakibara (my first baby will born) 🎁 * Jihye Hong * Simon Pieters ==== Observers ==== ^ Name ^ Arrival ^ Departure ^ Hotel ^ Flight info and notes ^ | David Grogan (Google) | 1 Aug | 4 Aug | | | | Fred Wang (Igalia) | 1 Aug | 1 Aug | | | | Sergio Villar Senin (Igalia) | 1 Aug | 1 Aug | | | ==== Topics ==== === Wednesday === == Morning == * CSS Timing spec (prefer Wednesday) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1577|Rename to CSS Easing Functions]]? * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1301|Naming of frames()]] * Counter Styles Open Issues, if not already covered. https://drafts.csswg.org/css-counter-styles-3/issues-cr-20150611 * Media Queries 4: CR? https://drafts.csswg.org/mediaqueries-4/issues-wd-2016-01-26.html * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1594|Additive CSS]] (On Wednesday please!) - Brian * Align issues * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1002|Allowing fallback alignments without breaking shorthands]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1039|Baseline self-alignment may affect the intrinsic size contribution of the alignment subject.]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1365|How items with synthesized baseline affect the size of intrinsic tracks]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1572|Baseline of a multi-col box?]] == Afternoon == * Flexbox Open Issues: https://drafts.csswg.org/css-flexbox/issues-cr-20160526 * selectors4 publication and review of dbaron's recent edit to API hooks (see [[https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Jul/0022.html|email]]) * [selectors] propagation of the :focus pseudo https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1240 * focus-ring * standardising as written https://wicg.github.io/focus-ring/spec/focusring.html * Open questions: * whether to (heuristically) match on any keyboard event, or only on tab/shift-tab https://github.com/WICG/focus-ring/issues/33 * how to “reset” to “original” focus style * whether finer-grained control should be available over when :focus-ring should match for a particular element (to allow matching the behaviour of e.g. ) * inert (https://github.com/WICG/inert/blob/master/README.md) * Sizing * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/765|765]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/951|951]] === Thursday === == Morning == * Tables Issues - Greg/Francois * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/508#issuecomment-317529294|input{display:table-*}]] - Greg * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/607#issuecomment-317532741|td{min-width:%}]] - Francois * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/474#issuecomment-317544515|td>div{height:%}]] - Francois * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/484#issuecomment-317546569|fixed-layout width distribution]] - Greg * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/478|col{visibility:collapse}]] - Greg * Automating Test Coverage - Greg * Revisiting policy around requiring tests for normative changes (see [[http://www.w3.org/mid/E68C12B1-A354-44CD-8F9A-334728997955@adobe.com|email]]) - Geoffrey/Chris (who isn't here) * [CSS-UI-3] (Florian) * Getting ready for PR https://test.csswg.org/harness/results/css-ui-3_dev/grouped/filter/17/ * Keep most cursor changes in the UA stylesheet? https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1598 * Meaning of "must not affect dispatching of pointer events" https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1637 * Note pointing to HTML's definition of cursor applying to image maps? https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1618 == Afternoon == * Fonts (Myles) * TAG review of OpenType variable fonts https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/183 * [css-fonts] CSSFontFaceRule does not seem Web compatible https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/825 * [css-fonts-4] We can't add new values to the font-synthesis property [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1641|1641]] * "Ignored" @font-face [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1133]] * Which font properties are reset by the font shorthand? [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1349]] * Animating font-weight [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1579]] * CSS Display Level 3 * Relation of ''inline foo'' and ''inline-foo'' ([[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1486|1486]] and [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1246|1246]]) * Potential reworking of flow-root syntax ([[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1496]]) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1486|Should all the `inline-foo` and `inline foo` forms be distinct?]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1457|Becoming a formatting context]] * Any other open issues blocking CR * [CSS-UI-4] 'auto' as the initial value for the 'appearance' property may not be web-compatible https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1250 * Which font properties should be resolved by the font shorthand? [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1636]] === Friday === == Morning == * [[https://tabatkins.github.io/specs/css-shadow-parts/|CSS Shadow Parts]] (poking into Shadow DOM in a more controlled manner) * Review of TTML: send as a group or individually? (https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Jul/0007.html) * coordination with TT WG over their requirements (followup from TAG meeting last week) * Nigel Megitt could attend remotely on Friday * [css-break] Consider adding clone-most-nested [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1633|1633]] * [css-text-3] letter-spacing - Koji * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1518|End edge behavior]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1517|Bidi-mixed directions]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1509|Applying after line breaking]] * finalizing "line-break: break-all" Bikesheding https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1561 and merging https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/pull/1438 (Florian) * [css-text-4] [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1668 | text-spacing fullwidth punctuation collapsing]] (Florian) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1391|[css-writing-modes] Orthogonal Flow Constraint: viewport vs scroller]] == Afternoon == * Renaming the dynamic and static profiles of selectors https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1694 (Florian) * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1693|CSS Variables that are not changed by the user]] (dino) * CSS Grid issues * maintenance of multicol * Adding Rachel Andrew as an editor * Quick intro to APL https://www.kri.sfc.keio.ac.jp/en/lab/aplab.html (Florian) * Inline Layout * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/938#issuecomment-314690847|Florian's further testing and investigations]] * [css-rhythm][css-line-grid] - Florian/Koji * [[https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.dev.platform/cnEN_sccXJY/1ddo5XifAwAJ|dbaron's comments on mozilla.dev.platform]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/938#issuecomment-318495149|Tab/Shane's proposal]] ==== Proposed Agenda Topics ==== * Informal breakout on difficult sizing issues? * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/794|794]] * [[https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1609|1609]]